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Received A 2017 "99.99% Pure Silver Coin" That Appears Gold On One Side. Any Idea Why It Looks Like?

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 Posted 02/07/2022  10:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add waflerthomas to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a 2017 "99.99% pure silver coin" but mine appears gold on one side. Does anyone know why? Canadian Mint refuses to reply to my inquiries and I can't find anything online. Is this a normal reaction? An impurity? The one side doesn't have ANY silver parts so it doesn't seem that an impurity makes sense. Any help or advice? Thanks.

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This same question came up a couple of years ago with a different silver coin
but I cannot find the old listing or remember the outcome. I think it had to do with
the 2016 commemorative Transatlantic Cable silver dollar.
Maybe someone else can remember.

Found the thread I was thinking of.
http://goccf.com/t/268024
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A nice find for sure waflerthomas!
I think it was a 2014 Perched Bald Eagle, gold plated both sides and recently featured in CCN. None of the "experts" there could explain how this happened.
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Yup, a good number of coins from 2016-2018 are acquiring really nice, uniform gold toning.
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 Posted 02/07/2022  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add waflerthomas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SPP-Ottawa, can you expand on what that means "uniform gold toning"? I'm not really a coin collector (but love squirrels so got this one) so I know very little about coins and collecting them.

JimmyD, thank you for the link. I'll read through it. It's all very puzzling to me.
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@waflerthomas: Welcome to CCF!

The toning (I.e. colour change) you are seeing on your coin is an artifact of the coating that the Mint now applies to its collector coins to help "preserve" their finish. The coating sometimes turns a golden colour after reacting with the environment and has effected a variety of Mint coins. Most coins, however, are not impacted.

I'm glad JimmyD was able to find the Atlantic Cable thread for you - lots of good discussion in that one. Here are two more that might be of interest to you:

- Group of Seven - Golden Coin?
- Coating Applied to R C M Collector Coins


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Thank you for the posts. Very disappointing that this could happen to such an expensive coin. The valuation part I don't care about, but I just wanted the nice squirrel coin I had originally fallen in love with. I guess the gold color does add some "fun" to it, but it's not as pretty as the silver.
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Sounds like a good excuse to have two coins... one gold and one silver!!
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I have a number of recent UK Silver NCLT coins (Pound, 2 Pounds & 5 pounds/Crown). They all exhibit this toning effect though to a much lesser extent. I don't (yet) have any Canadian NCLT exhibiting this but the $200 for $200 all show this effect.

My local LCS has a number of these coins in showcases that look completely gold. I initially thought it was a reaction to the showcase lighting but my coins are kept in the dark unless I am looking at them... also what was reported in the threads above.
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I just had to chime in on this topic, I wish some of my old NCLT coins would tarnish this way, probably only way I can get my purchase price back other than silver hitting 100.00. I just don"t understand why some coins only one side is affected ?
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I just don"t understand why some coins only one side is affected


It is a mystery and without knowing the chemistry of the wash used by the RCM, everything else can only be conjecture. It is a bit disappointing that the RCM is silent on this but I can imagine if this is widespread, they would be open to a fairly significant financial impact if they were forced to recall these tarnished coins.

As to making your money back... Not sure on this either... the coins at my LCS are dust collectors... there is no elevated demand for these coins.
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check out this 2018 set.. fully gold toned on one side and almost 90% on the other
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So this set kind of leads to a bad batch of wash or cleaner the RCM applied to the finish coins
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I think the discussion the earlier gold toning referred/pointed to the coins being in post office displays that were open to sunlight
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I think the discussion the earlier gold toning referred/pointed to the coins being in post office displays that were open to sunlight

Not always! See canadian_coins story: (Same as link above.)

- Group of Seven - Golden Coin?



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