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I just got into the silver ETF symbol:SLV. Up 12% this year. Figured why not. Already have a little gold.
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this guy is obviously educated


So are the morons that got us into this mess in the first place.
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Wow... guess he had a over half million dollars in cash to walk away with all that gold !

The doctor was probably over-reacting a bit, although I do have about 10-12% of my assets in PM. If he has 5 million in assets, half a mil would be 10%.
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What medal will have value is lead (especially if it's wrapped in brass).
Shocking to many, but probably true.
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You can melt gold, pour it into a bullet mold and shoot it. Darn expensive ammo though. Actually, owning land that you can grow food on, living in an area with game to hunt and having stored food is your best answer to a total meltdown. It also doesn't hurt to live in an area where they ranch cattle, pigs, chickens, etc...
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It is very possible this guy just lost his shirt in the stock market, and, so burned, is now going to roll the dice in the precious metals/commodity market. Perhaps he will lose his shorts there.

I wouldn't expect a commodities trader to treat me for the flu, so I wouldn't look to a doctor for guidance on how to become a commodities trader.

Sometimes skill in one area such as medicine leads to overconfidence in other areas, such as investing. No one has a crystal ball, including the jockeys on the radio shows.

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as with all currencies, lead needs to be backed by something. In this case, by gunpowder
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This brought some items that I have overheard:

1. I was in the coin shop last week and overheard a couple talking about the fact they wanted to have at least 20% of their cash assets turned into gold and silver coins. They had been doing some research and found a book that talked about getting your life under control by being prepared for any situation that comes along and this was one of the main features. So I started thinking about it and what do you do if the power was out for extended period of time (weeks, months...), major tragedy in the family, etc. and part of it makes sense to a point.

2. The other...I wish I could remember where I heard it from but a panel of people from different financial backgrounds were talking about the dollar and the changes it could take in the future. They all agreed that it will decline and not be a dominating source in the near future and then went on to give different reasons. I blanked out for awhile but one item hit hard and that was the idea if countries started trading or selling off their American debts to other countries and that if the right country bought it, it could send us back to the stone age depending on how that country dealt with it. Of course this was when China started to become more of a power figure and was aimed at them without directly saying it. So if you believe in something like that then I could see the point but since most of us do not have more than few bucks stashed away, it would not matter either way.
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The dollar isn't going to be worth less. That doesn't mean inflation isn't a risk. If he is a doctor worth say $1,000,000 net worth, then having 5% and 1% invested in gold and silver might not be a bad idea.

Everyone hears $60,000 and thinks the guy is crazy. I mean that $60K might just be insurance in case that low risk event happens. Ever heard of Zimbabwee? Have you seen the growth in the Federal Reserve's Balance lately?
http://www.federalreserve.gov/relea...h41/Current/ Yes that is right, they have doubled their balance sheet in the past year (that is over $1 trillion dollars in printed money and bank reserves).

So the question is? If you had more than enough to support yourself in assets and had a good income coming in....would you put $60K in metals just in case so mass hyper inflation happened?

In an end of the world case, then guns, ammo, food, clothes, and stuff you need to make it are going to be what you need. Gold and silver aren't going to be worth much.

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I think if ever the SHTF, food, guns and other basics would be critical, not that much precious metals.
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I own a self sustaining ranch with a lot of land with water in California and Montana. Guess that Doctor and many others will be giving me a lot of gold.
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We're still telling our clients (CPA at a risk management and financial services firm) to keep about 8% of their worth in precious metals... up to 12. Any more than that is just as much of a gamble as sitting with your nestegg and playing slots with it.

As a coin guy I want to own as much bullion as possible but I want mine at face value via roll hunting!

Anyway.. the sentiment around the office is 'We survived 29-33 we can survive this'.

Of course, the other agreement around the office is things could (but probably) won't get that bad.

We'll see

Seeking: Face value silver!
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I have a friend my age who is a practicing Psychiatrist. He believes that the US should still be on the silver standard - every paper dollar backed by an appropriate amount of silver. As I have pointed out to him that the price of silver can also flucuate, causing the amount of silver needed to back the dollar to also flucuate. In other words it doesn't do anything to stop inflation. My Dr. friend is buying all the bulk silver he can get his hands on believing the 2010 will bring about run away inflation like Brazil had in the 80's. If you believe this will happen than that provides the only reason I can think of to buy silver and gold, as a hedge against real inflation. On the other hand don't buy it to get rich. If gold goes to $2000 an ounce in all likelihood your $2000 will only buy as much goods and services as $900 will buy today. Use your money to buy a house or pay off your mortgage, or like me to buy old coins.
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In the event of a complete meltdown of the financial system gold would be nearly worthless. But there are many scenarios where gold would retain it's value as most things lost their's. High inflation is the most obvious.


When in the history of gold (thousands of years) has it been "nearly worthless"?
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I believe we are heading into a period of Hyperinflation,because of all the cash the government is pumping into the economy.....and since gold and silver are a good way to store wealth in inflationary times,Im not so sure the Dr. was all that paranoid!

I wish I could afford to do that!
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