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Hey folks,
Does any discoloration on a coin dismiss it from being UNC?
Certain coins I notice have a weak strike but also light discoloration on high points.
Does that assure it is circulated or is it still possible to be unc?
Thanks! You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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no toning doesn't, it wear on a coin that dismiss if from being UNC
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This is what I'm curious about..
How do you determine it is wear vs weak strike?
It is slightly discolored on those high points which have a weak strike, and I'm guessing that is the indication it is wear.
I'm not talking about toning per se.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Edited by NumismaticsFTW
02/24/2022 07:05 am
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Loss of luster at the high points is the best way to distinguish wear from strike weakness. That sometimes shows as a slight darkening, although I'm not sure what you mean by discoloration.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is a mystery to me too. I've seen coins in slabs titled AU that looked all messed up and I've seen coins with all kinds of toning titled MS. It is all a mystery to me. I just save what I like.
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How do you determine it is wear vs weak strike? This takes a certain amount of experience examining all coins . A newbie would be scratching their heads  to figure it out . Not to worry ,it will eventually come to you . |
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Someone can touch a nice UNC coin, tone the high points, but not create any rub or wear. That is what makes grading by photos tough, because you don't have the chance to rotate the coin in the light. For weak strikes, having knowledge on the series is a good way to learn. Certain Morgan dollar date and mints have weaker strikes, early draped bust coinage has uneven and incomplete strikes, etc. If you can rotate the coin in the light, and the flatly struck area has the original mint surface, then you know it is a weak strike. If the flat spot is dull then you know it is wear. I am no expert but these are the observations I picked up on lately. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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TBOP- Top grading companies disagree on whether it is wear or unc all the time.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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Justcarl- I'm with you on that. I've seen Morgan dollars graded MS63 with a lot of "rub" and the discoloration is extremely evident on those spots You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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It is a mystery to me too. I've seen coins in slabs titled AU that looked all messed up and I've seen coins with all kinds of toning titled MS. It is all a mystery to me. I just save what I like.  |
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jacrispies- "Someone can touch a nice UNC coin, tone the high points, but not create any rub or wear. That is what makes grading by photos tough, because you don't have the chance to rotate the coin in the light."
Thank you for sir, I appreciate the knowledge
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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Bedrock of the Community
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How do you determine it is wear vs weak strike? as previously stated, it takes experience looking at coins. here is one example. the Morgan dollar series has multiple mints. a high percentage of those struck at the New Orleans mint were weakly struck. one of those years was 1892. when assessing 1892-O MS coin for this year I want to look at the highest devices (hair around ear & eagle breast) if these are flat and the rest of the coin is sharp then you know you have a weak strike some series are easier than others. peruse CCF as posts are made and read the comments. when you see a weak strike comment attempt to determine why that statement was made. hope this helps giving you starting point. there is much to learn and it never ceases here is an example where you can see this on a 92-O  |
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