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1909 VDB Sent To PCGS Against The Forum's Advice It Was Graded MS-64red By Numistrust

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Wise members told me to leave well enough alone. Do you think PCGS straight graded it and if so what grade?
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Sorry I wasn't paying attention
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Obverse pic please.
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A photo of the Obverse would help instead of two of the Reverse
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Before I call it I need to know what those two white patches are obverse and reverse .
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Before I call it I need to know what those two white patches are obverse and reverse .


Seems fair enough

Glare from the lights through plastic. They were slabbed with details or not.
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 Posted 02/28/2022  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is still 64 and straight

The fingerprints hurt it, but it would not kill the coin for me.

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Hardly a hit on it, looks nice except for the fingerprints and (apparent) spotting.

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I agree to 64 straight .
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Good job BadThad and TBop. You guys are pretty good at this stuff
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Yes, most of us are pretty good at grading this stuff and have a feel for what will cross-over or won't. You fool around with coins for 50+ years and you eventually learn a few things.

The big question is will it still be a 64 in 25 or 30 years as time and storage conditions affect those finger prints! And believe me, it will eventually affect the coin!
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 Posted 02/28/2022  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it most likely won't hold that 64.
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Not worth 64RD money to me, just my opinion.
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The fingerprint oils might darken a fair amount over time. Hard to know what that will look like in the future.
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please allow at least 24hr prior to posting results. 48 is better. coin is graded properly by PCGS
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