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Circulated Chopmarked 8 Reales With Identical Chopmark On Reverse, Modern Forgeries?

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 Posted 05/25/2022  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newguy22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
*Correction

The coin in the post directly above is a relist of an earlier ebay listing I talked about in this thread already.
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Another example of an 8 reales piece with similar smaller chopmarks on the reverse underneath the shield. All seem to come from the same seller in Quebec.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175373482367tmp=no
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/256083890681

Appears to be the same character(s?) as the coin shown immediately above and the 3rd and 4th coins shown in this thread (1st page), but NOT the first two shown. That mark has similar size and positioning, but is not the exact same character(s).
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That 1808 looks like a cast counterfeit. The chop below the Lion looks like it was cat into the coin.
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That circular mark does have a weird mushy look to it. Possible the whole piece is cast, or that's a product of the coin receiving an odd polishing or processing of some sort (look at the surfaces in general).

None of these observed reverses seem to be obvious die matches thus far.
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