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New Member
Belgium
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Hi everyone, I want to get this coin graded. In Belgium, where I live, it isn't that easy and common to get them graded. That is why I don't have much experience grading coins. Could you guys give me your opinions? Thanks in advance and have a great day   Edited by Goldenlion 03/15/2022 04:12 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Unusual to have a perfectly round hammered coin that hasn't been at least lightly clipped. This coin slightly bent, and has been carefully flattened out again.
It is certainly worth having it graded and slabbed, if for no other reason, just to prove authenticity. Might be worth sending to NGC in America, for this reason.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The photos are a bit out of focus, but it looks like a beautiful gehelmde leeuw you have! If you want to have it graded, NGC has nearest submission locations in Paris and near Utrecht: https://www.NGCcoin.de/submit/how-to-submit/
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New Member
 Belgium
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Thanks for the responses! Would this grade as a "details/damaged" coin because of it being bent? Because otherwise it is in quite a nice condition
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Although a hammered coin that is bent (and subsequently flattened), will certainly attract a 'comments' along with the grading, it should not be all that much of a big issue, because hammered coins are thin, and so will bend easily. On the other hand, a hammered coin that has been clipped is a much more serious form of deliberate damage.
Gold coins respond much better than silver to being flattened out after bending, due to the ductility of gold. Old hammered silver coins can suffer from horn silver (a form of powdering), and silver crystallization, which makes them far more brittle than gold coins. if they suffer from either of these two problems.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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If they feel it occured during the manufacture, no. I think you can search and find straight graded coins medieval coins with features like this (not Details).
The only other thought I have on your coin is that you might make an appointment at Elsen to have someone give an opinion on the grade. They sell more of these than any other place in the world as far as I can tell, (though admittedly very few that are slabbed) and they are a short ride by car or train. They may be able to examine the coin and give an opinion on whether the waviness occurred during striking, etc. since they have handles so many of these.
Edited by tdziemia 03/16/2022 5:59 pm
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New Member
France
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Purely out of interest, did you ever get your Gold Lion graded. It is a very nice coin by the way, and any blemishes can be forgiven, after all it is has had a life and is 658 years old. I have one myself, (also ungraded), but I am not a fan of 'grading experts'. They seem to march to the sound of a different drum. javascript:insertsmilie('  ') Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and its your own opinion that matters the most.  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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How beautiful is that! 
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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The Ox moves slowly, but the Earth is patient.
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