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OK So 1958 P DDO Whatcha Think Yes Or No Or Am I Seeing Things Again?

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 Posted 03/23/2022  1:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

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 Posted 03/23/2022  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What attribution number do you think it is and way too many photos.Bobby does not like that.
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 Posted 03/23/2022  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hesitant to ask for new photos; however, suggest posting full, large and shart images of the obverse and reverse--just two photos (to go along with those above).
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 Posted 03/23/2022  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No more pictures. No doubling of any sort. There is only one DDO for this year, the big one.
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 Posted 03/23/2022  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@SpencerJ: I do not have in the hand your coin. Yes are some DD's on 1958 without to be publish. To be honest, you take nice photos but far to close to be able to come at a conclusion. Try take photos without so much focus.. In your case an X20 will be enough.

@ Cujohn: you go just by what was publish. Sorry you are wrong. Manny non publish varieties and errors are in collections and will be never publish. Those trading are done on close doors and the others do not have access to, Sorry man to tell you but I give gift an 1958 date DDO and an RPM of 1958 to two of the most recognized specialists, and just because they argument with me that do not exist and because those things for me has no value.
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 Posted 03/24/2022  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To everyone I must say I'm sorry for the images being to close and clear, it's just that I've had nothing but complaints about my imaging and have heard every time that it isn't a DDO because it can't be seen. As for this coin I used imaging of the only one to go to auction for comparison I found it to be a little more accurate that the other stock photos. Going by the auction house images I feel they are spot on as far as the spread and any other marks to be found. It was my hope that someone here had similar images for them to compare to. Again thanks everyone
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 Posted 03/24/2022  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The tops of Liberty are showing Machine Doubling. This is caused by the machine. A doubled die has the doubling on the dies and can also suffer from Machine Doubling. But the machine doesn't make a doubled die, the die does. The big one is huge:
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You don't to look that close to see this DDO. There are only three known 1958 DDO examples. Your is not one of them.
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 Posted 03/25/2022  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Coop this is a teaching moment for you and a learning moment for me. Let start by explaining why your comment have only confused me further. If I'm to understand what you just said the top of liberty are machine doubled, and in the presence of said Machine Doubling all other DD become null and void? If that's true there's gonna be some angry collectors when they find out lol. Seriously though so I understand are you saying that the top of liberty is machine doubled so therefor the remaining devices are to be considered Machine Doubling? I'm confused, to say the least. This logic makes no sense to me, what I heard my self try and reason is white is,white, Black is Black, mix one part with the other you get Red unless you need. Red then it becomes yellow. The way I understand it a die is doubled during it creation where as a machine does the other 2 completely separate processes, so how would one influence the others existence? A DD is A DD correct? Even in the presence of machine. Ok so I think I have it maybe, but wait what rotation was the the 1958 subject to I only ask because all devices are doubled in the same direction they show the separation notching splitting and every other description of a true DD, on top of that they all show the same degree of separation as the coin in question ie the big one. So no again I'm still just as confused, please explain this to me.
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 Posted 03/25/2022  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a visual learner so let's see. Do I have the right idea?
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 Posted 03/26/2022  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spencerj72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about any attitude from those last couple post Coop was having a bad nay
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