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I was wondering if someone could tell me if there was a time in newfounland coinage when the obverse and reverse were aligned like U.S coins I have a 1917 c 50 cent that is aligned like canadian coins and I seen a 1885 20 cent where the coin is aligned like U.S coins. Is that an error or is that the way they were made?. Oh and I think this is like my 47 post almost to 50 I have some prizes when I get there. Some canadian large cents If anybody likes those, 50 cent piece, some plastic coin holders. Got to think of a contest I guess.
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The coins of Newfoundland were not consistently one way or the other. The 1¢ coins, for instance, almost always have medal alignment ("like Canadian coins"), while the silvers normally have coin alignment ("like U.S. coins").

According to my references, both the 1917C 50¢ and 1885 20¢ should have coin alignment. None of my catalogues mention any alignment varieties for the 1917C 50¢. Judging just by that, you've got an "error".

However, I just went and checked my 1917C Newfoundland 50¢ coin, and it's medal-aligned, too. Occam's Razor says that my references are wrong (I'm using a 1983 edition Charleton catalogue!), rather than both of us just happening to have "mint errors".
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I see! so what your saying is that even if it is coin aligned or metal aligned its not an error either way. I have no clue just seemed strange. Thanks
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Hi there, I have the 2009 charlton and it actually puts little arrows to show you which coin alignments are known to them. it shows 2 arrows pointing up for the regular die axis alignment in canadian coins which we all know. (the opposite of US coinage) Only some years pay a premium for rarity in die axis alignment.

What it is showing for the above mentioned 20 cent coin is that the 1885 20 cent is supposed to match how the US does it. (one side up and one side down)

For the 1917 50 cent piece it is showing the die axis as matching the "canadian" way. both sides facing up.

Hope that explanation made some sense in the way I said it.

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I have the 2009 charlton and it actually puts little arrows to show you which coin alignments are known to them.

Of the various books I have that list Canadian coins, my 1983 Charlton is the only one that had those arrows. That's why I used it.

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Hope that explanation made some sense in the way I said it.

Yep. It means I was right; my old '83 Charlton is wrong. The 1917C 50¢ is "supposed" to be medal aligned. If you found one that was coin aligned "like a US coin", then it would be an error. However, the 1885 20¢ is the opposite: coin-aligned is normal, medal-aligned would be an error.
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