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Jakesr4108 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 1:54 pm This coin appears to have a center hole that wasn't supposed to be there. It's not fully punched thru plus it has a double strike. Any thoughts or inquiries would help. I got a few dozen foreign coins given to me yesterday. Report this Post to the Staff

JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21606 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 2:06 pm That is a French 50 centime. It has been damaged after it left the mint. I don't see any sign of a double strike, a double strike would affect more than one small area. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisRob Bedrock of the Community United Kingdom 17930 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 2:35 pm These aluminium coins were issued during the German occupation of France in the Second World War. The motto "Travail - Famille - Patrie" (Work - Family - Mother Country) replaced the usual "Liberte - Egalite - Fraternite". My Trade List: https://goccf.com/t/194596 My Wants List: https://goccf.com/t/191710 Report this Post to the Staff
Jakesr4108 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 6:31 pm You don't see the hole punched in the middle and to the right of the hole it has another place it struck Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21606 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 6:37 pm Yes, I see the "hole in the middle". That is the damage I was referring to. Someone punched it after it left the mint and it is not double struck. Report this Post to the Staff
Jakesr4108 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 6:38 pm That hole appears how could this not be done at the mint. Some one dropped it in the hole machine for making Chinese coins. I see no evidence of the coin being held to punch the hole so it must have been placed in some collar of some sort. It's some kinda break press that would make a hole like that. Report this Post to the Staff
Jakesr4108 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 6:53 pm How could it not have been in the machine by mistake? I don't see any other way that hole could have been done with harming some part of the coin. All the scratches are inside the punched out area. One outside. But none on the edges where they were should have held the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Jakesr4108 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 6:55 pm I'm sorry I think your wrong. Where would have have this checked out to see if my theory is right? PCGS or some other company? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16827 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 8:05 pm The problem is, "the hole machine for making Chinese coins" drilled the holes not in finished coins, but in the planchets before the coins were struck. PCGS generally don't do "inexplicable errors", or "errors" that can just as easily be made at the proverbial shed workbench. It needs clearly be a mint-caused error, which this is not. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34409 Posts	Posted 04/14/2022 9:23 pm @jake, I am also quite sure this is all damage. A flat punch could have been impacted on one side with the coin resting on a washer with an internal hole approximately the same diameter of the punch. The top of the number 5 shows some flattening. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
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