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What Coin Is This, Or If Reproduction/Fake—what/Where Does It Represent?

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 Posted 04/15/2022  7:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sms65965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I found this today (I know putting a coin into a bezel is awful), but I've never seen a medieval coin like this, and I tried searching for where it might come from (or if fake what it's supposed to represent).

Has anyone seen a coin like this or know where it might come from/time period? It looks "crusader" state, but I don't know which.


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 Posted 04/15/2022  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is loosely - very, very loosely - based on the design of Spanish-colonial silver 8 reales coins - the "pirate piece of eight". The obverse, with the shield, is loosely based on the Spanish coat of arms with the Bourbon triple-fleur-de-lys badge in the centre. On the other side, we have the lions-and-castles symbols of Leon and Castile, quartered in a Jerusalem Cross. Only this isn't a Jerusalem Cross, it's a cross pattee. Genuine Spanish coins never used a cross of this shape and style.

So I would assume that it's a "made-for-jewellery" replica. Since they didn't ruin a perfectly good coin by putting it in the bezel but used a replica instead, you may put your mind at ease there. I assume it was made and sold as a "pirate treasure" piece of jewellery.
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Thanks very much; I appreciate it!
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@sms, in looking at your pics, I just noticed that the bezel is stamped with "14K", so it is likely that it is almost 60% gold. If you decide to separate the replica coin from the bezel, don't just pitch the bezel.
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