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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3328 Posts |
I'm going to take a complete shot in the dark and say VF details corrosion. I mean completely in the dark.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
The coin has had an old cleaning and some corrosion. I am not sure of the color as It could be black, chocolate brown or grey. The example has an outside shot at a straight grade VF30. When you get it in hand, please post photo that show actual color. Aggressive bidding for a coin that could end up in a details holder.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
599 Posts |
Color looks wrong.
Probably cleaned and re-toned.
Watch your top knot
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18673 Posts |
hard to find decent planchets for these classic heads. I see a around the date area an under the curl. LDS dies. weak strike. most likely she was cleaned
this is just an observation - looking at the profile I hope I'm not seeing what appears to be tooling especially around the nose. it may be just shadowing from the light but I wanted to point that out.
VF30 details (corrosion)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have it ID'ed as an S-288 variety, rarity 2.
I'd call it a late die state; notice how stars 8-13 "reach out" to the rim.
And I tend to agree; environmental damage rather than porous planchet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I really can't get a feel for the grade on this one. It's a sharp central strike, with quite a bit of peripheral weakness. That plays havoc with the feel for the grade. Not really sure here.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1694 Posts |
Hard to get a good feel on this one.
Does look cleaned but I am not sure how much or if its the lighting.
The look of corrosion may just of been the planchet .
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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In my opinion, the coin has nice VF30 details. The obverses surfaces are slightly rough, but not corroded. And yes, it does appear like the reverse may have been cleaned at some point. What seems like a weak peripheral strike, is in fact due, I believe, to "die flow" which causes the peripheral devices to merge into the rim as the die progressively wears down. Overall a nice coin, barring what could be a slight reverse clean. Here is another example of die flow in this 1812 from my collection:   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The look of corrosion may just of been the planchet the coin would still detail for it even if it was original to the planchet. I have three classic heads all planchet corrosion and all detailed for it GERMANICVS - just curious. you dont think the area below the curl is corroded? |
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United States
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