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I'm wondering if there is an online resource for identifying and valuing Thai banknotes. My mother-in-law recently passed away and there is a bunch of stuff in a safety deposit box, located in Bangkok. Apparently I am going to be tasked with cataloguing all the coin and currency items, sometime next year on our next trip over. My father-in-law was a banker, so there is stuff like these stacks of old 1 baht notes. There are similar stacks of old 10 baht notes, single notes saved in plastic holders, and some common commemorative notes like the 60 baht anniversary note, etc. I've found Numista ( https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note207110.html) for example for these 1 baht, but there are 11 different designations there like "74d.5 sign.40" and I have no idea what that means. Any other good resources out there? Thanks. 
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Although your Numista link appears to be broken, you've found one decent online source for info on World currency. Another might be banknotemuseum for P-74 (& I hope this link functions): http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/c.../THL-GOV.htm Quote: for example for these 1 baht, but there are 11 different designations there like "74d.5 sign.40" and I have no idea what that means. -If you check out the banknotemuseum link for P-74, you'll see that the 1st variation of 1 Baht note (a version) from 1955 had no security thread & then a security thread for the (b) version. This site clearly shows the other signature combinations (b, c & d) so "74d.5 sign 40" means you have P-74d(5) which is the 2nd from last note (d version) pictured on the site. There were 10 variations issued (11 if you include the specimen but that was never issued) for the 1955 One Baht note. Unfortunately, Numista does not have the signatures shown (which may come later down the road provided users submit appropriate scans). With the Numista site, you will see ebay ads for the same note so that should give you a relative idea of what the note typically lists for (as BIN). Typically, the later versions were often hoarded & they tend to sell for less than the earlier versions. Numista does list the % frequency of its members report that they have such & such variation [you must take this with a grain of salt as Numista is very new so unreliable as to what collectors actually have/don't have]. But it is interesting data the other sites lack. There are always exceptions to the generalization that the latest is the most common (with some last prefixes or signature variations being cut short). What sellers want to sell their notes for compared to what the actual market will bear can also fluctuate as described in this post from the PMF: https://www.papermoneyforum.com/pos...ces-12342706Finally, there is also the banknote index: https://banknoteindex.com/ for more info and the PMG site for their graded currency: https://www.pmgnotes.com/priceguide...e-guide.aspx& greysheet (formerly the Banknote Book) which requires a subscription fee: https://www.greysheet.com/publicati...-paper-money(revised)
Edited by walk2dwater 05/08/2022 12:42 pm
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Really cool! I had the fortune of living in Thailand for a couple years in 2002-2004 and it was life's highlight! In talking with locals, I learned that numismatics is somewhat of a popular hobby and a lot of people had an old jar or box accumulation. I wasn't in the market at the time, but was always really fun to talk about, especially when values and trading are a non-issue! I was finally able to start working on my own type-set a couple years ago and I believe Siam/Thailand produced some of the prettiest and most fascinating coins and notes over the last couple centuries. Good luck in your quest and in sorting out the details on those notes!
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@walk2dwater, thanks for those links. I will check them out. Sorry about the broken Numista link; I forgot that it happens when I put the link inside parentheses. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note207110.html should work. From what I can discern from the images I have, the 1 baht note above is indeed 74d(5) signature 40. Unknown if everything in those stacks is the same. I imagine there could be some sequential serial number blocks. As you can see, the wrap around the stacks has distorted the bills, particularly at the top and bottom notes, some corners are bent, etc. There might be some crisp UNC in there though. From what I see on ebay the BIN prices vary wildly but asking maybe $5-10 per note, PMG certified higher. Of course selling them individually would be a hassle - looks like there's 150-200 of them in that picture alone. A dealer might not even want that many in one transaction. I'll see if I can find the other notes and get a feel for the process. As I said, I'll have to tackle this in person next year - I only have partial images of some of them and only one side. There's a bunch of other stuff like Buddha images from past kingdoms, which will take a real specialist to sort out. @Collects82, the Thai commemorative coins are great and I have a bunch already. The commemorative notes are also beautiful. I imagine I'll end up buying some of the stuff from the estate, and other relatives will want examples too. Thanks again!
Edited by kbbpll 05/08/2022 11:52 am
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Quote: the 1 baht note above is indeed 74d(5) signature 40. Unknown if everything in those stacks is the same. I imagine there could be some sequential serial number blocks. As you can see, the wrap around the stacks has distorted the bills, particularly at the top and bottom notes, some corners are bent, etc. There might be some crisp UNC in there though -Yes, I just clicked on the image & realized it would be the 2nd last note issued (which happens to be the majority notes listed on Numista). I then revised my post which had an obvious mistake. BTW: you may want to post this same question on NUMISTA since there are a few knowledgable collectors from Thailand who may provide better info than I have. (They may also reach out in terms of coin shops where you may wish to try your luck in selling some while there). The notes do look UNC with nice corners but it is tough to tell from just a photo & you're right there could be other variations withiin the bundle. Just b/c one sees a strap doesn't necessarily mean they are all one from 1 original bundle. Hard to say as people most often had no clue what they were keeping back in the day. Great inheritance & sorry for your loss.
Edited by walk2dwater 05/08/2022 1:02 pm
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Thanks to your assistance I was able to ID a couple more. Thailand 5 baht P-0082a Sgn. 41 1969  Thailand 20 baht P-0077d Sgn. 44 1953  Neither has astounding value, as I suspected. Quote: Just b/c one sees a strap doesn't necessarily mean they are all one from 1 original bundle. As I said, late father-in-law was a banker so we suspect he acquired the 1 baht bundles when they demonetized them, so they could all be sequential, but of course I'll have to see them in person. I don't know what all else there is as far as currency; one photo hints that there might be an album with more. Thanks for the condolences, we went on many fabulous trips with both of them over the years, including Cambodia and Laos.
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