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1894 Indian Head Cent Gem

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GreatCollections had a nice slew of 1890's in higher MS levels Sunday evening. Bidding was solid and lively with me being shut out on 4 other Indian cents. I did place the winning bid on this one $400 after buyers fees. Indian lovers I am seeing a solid MS-65 BN with an overall pleasing tone your observations and opinions are welcome and solicited on this coin. Will post in hand pics when it arrives. If interested and for a juiced up image of this coin "PCGSfoinfacts" lists it as an example coin for the 1894 BN
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MS-65BN sounds about right. Congrats!
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Thank you coinfrog a nice little premium came along with it. I have noticed imo PCGS is pretty stingy with the MS-65 grade on later date Indian cents. Bowers said "avoid all spots or imperfections on high MS specimens" and I believe Snow mentions that in his guidebook. I looked at several MS64's that had one or two menacing spots on them. Fascinating series gets pricey quickly.
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Are you looking to build a complete set?
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Can't argue with 65BN, lovely example.
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MS-65BN all day long . Very clean coin .
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I see MS65 as well. Very nice example.
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I have the series set in G-VF got burned out locked them up and forgot about them until recently. These Indians after the barber series light up my frontal cortex. I don't have alot of experience with these but spent something I have much of "time" and concluded after reading everything I can get hands on that the rarity rating on these not so common commons go into the R5 6, 7, and R8 level yet are very affordable at 280ish to $1000. I find that astounding?

1894 in MS-65 was my target date because of its 16,000,000 mintage , decent strike, perceived scarcity and their being a low pop of couple hundred PCGS gem examples. I was very surprised to see this coin on the auction block, plenty of MS-64's but this was the first gem I have seen in awhile. I feel 400 bucks was a good buy for it. However LOL its not in my hand so will get some nice kitchen table pics Saturday.
Food for thought is cac submission? a green bean instantly adds 10-20% in value yet my gut tells me its likely already been submitted and not stickerd. The former owner certainly appreciated its potential as they had it PCGS goldsheilded whomever was former owner I thank them that I get to be custodian for awhile.
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A long-collected set by hundreds of thousands of collectors over the past century. I've completed it twice and sold out for a modest profit, but this is hardly a series to invest in for above-average returns unless you're gambling on high-grade slabs. Like the Lincolns, the Indian cents have been analytically sliced to death from a collector's standpoint. Unless you just want to collect this series for fun, stay away.
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good advice coinfrog and after building the set realized you could spend and improve adnausem plus the errors doubled dies rpd's etc. This one will hold me on Indians for awhile.
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Agreed, MS65 BN. Nice strike, nice surfaces, nice die state. Checks all my boxes for an overall great coin!
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I'm seeing very clean surfaces and hard pressed to find any marks other than some very minor spotting on the obverse. solid MS65BN I cant see why this wouldnt have a + or green bean
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Here's the real life no lie android kitchen table pics for me two things stand out 1. Ya gotta look hard for little dings chatter etc. 2. If you gotta look that hard its a gem.
The bad thing is this...there's more and better out there and my coin pouch better cool it for a month. Enjoy all, spec on jawline is a nick on plastic, ding on nose is a ding.
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Yowza! That's a beauty!
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Fort Collins....your not one for grade or eye appeal compliments actually your pretty stingy on grading. I take your comment as a compliment.
Lots of seasoned advanced collectors on the forum who know Indians -I wonder if years from now a nice looking correctly graded Indian will still cause the excitement and brain wow that they do now. Emotional attachment is mentioned in advanced numistmatic literature and I gloss over it until I find one like this one. I usually say "holy *$@! Batman" on a gem Indian woohoo!
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just a question luvmyCAM

looking at the latest photo of the obv it appears that there is small area under the eye on the high point of the cheek that looks dull. when you rotate it is the luster there? if not, could be cabinet rub so to speak and if it I'm wondering if a TPG would knock the grade for it a bit. it does not show on your original photos so I'm thinking its the lighting
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