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NumismaticsFTW Pillar of the Community United States 2281 Posts	Posted 05/19/2022 10:15 pm Hey folks Grading coins is subjective of course. Having said that, I have a couple questions to pick your brains. If a coin is BU and someone slid it across a counter top and it is slightly noticeable, would it almost certainly be considered circulated (AU)? Is there instances where grading companies are forgiving or may believe it could have been rubbed against other coins etc. and still grade Unc? Thanks! You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Report this Post to the Staff

jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3848 Posts	Posted 05/19/2022 10:56 pm Quote: If a coin is BU and someone slid it across a counter top and it is slightly noticeable, would it almost certainly be considered circulated (AU)? No, the coin is considered a lower mint state. It still has not seen circulation and has no wear. The mint surface is just scratched up, but still intact. Some would net grade to a 60-62 grade and some would call it details scratched or cleaned. Quote: Is there instances where grading companies are forgiving or may believe it could have been rubbed against other coins etc. and still grade Unc? Yes, that is why coins that have bag marks are still in mint state. Morgans for example spent a lot of time in bags. That clinked and clanked against each other until they were finally released into circulation. Those coins, with a lot of "chatter", would grade unc but roughly in a 60-63 grade. Contact marks don't exactly count as circulation wear. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 05/20/2022 08:41 am Quote: No, the coin is considered a lower mint state. It still has not seen circulation and has no wear. The mint surface is just scratched up, but still intact. well put by jacrispies. There is a difference between contact marks and wear. Evidence of wear, depending on the extent implies circulation. Even light breaks in luster are acceptable in low MS, depending on the extent, and would have to be differentiated from "wear". Telling the difference between the two, especially in certain series is the tricky part. That's when experience, research, and handling 100's-1000's of examples comes into play. Report this Post to the Staff
JasonKflo Pillar of the Community United States 1694 Posts	Posted 05/21/2022 09:47 am They are not supposed to but I have seen some coins graded AU-58 with only cabinet rub and no wear that I could see what so ever. I have A 1889 O Morgan I feel the same about it's graded Au/58 Report this Post to the Staff
fortcollins Pillar of the Community United States 3644 Posts	Posted 05/21/2022 1:51 pm Just a couple thoughts from the curmudgeon's corner. Distinguishing between cabinet rub and circulation wear is mainly a problem with sliders. The bigger problems are TPGs misreading strike, die state, and die polishing for wear on the tough series, like Buffs and SLQs. There are opportunities to snag undergraded coins in the mid-AU and slider categories. Report this Post to the Staff
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