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1969-D Type D Quarter Who Contradict Our Old Markers

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 Posted 05/25/2022  8:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi to all,

I have 'it this coin in one of my topic a few months ago and according with what we know, is not TYPE D. In fact it is and personally I will be happy to send the coin to COOP and Mike to analyze and find others markers if they whish. Was certified by VSS and then by ANACS. This variety it is very scarce one.

I am not happy with the MS attribution but must be the new way to attribute.

Here the pictures:
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Like I say before, the eye appeal of the grader it is a big factor for attribution.
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05/25/2022 8:44 pm
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 Posted 05/25/2022  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know if you can see, but in hand it is proof like. Can someone to clear my head?
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 Posted 05/25/2022  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not familiar with quarters at all but I can see the high glossy surface like a proof.

Congrats on the find.
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 Posted 05/25/2022  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank Pete, when I send I ask PL but because pg and Ng do not give yet this they do not give. It is a mystery.

PS. I past almost 500 cello UN sets to find some goods PL and others come back SMS or Proof. I have the cello cut with missing the coins I send. I do not understand anymore the new way to certify. At least they attribute me the variety except the penny ghost image.
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05/25/2022 10:37 pm
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 Posted 05/26/2022  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if it is NOT type-D, what type do you say it is?
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 Posted 05/26/2022  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Level: Me I never say it is not Type-D. I state it is from begin. I put here the coin after attribution for the members to take note of the design and to see that not all the coins of same type have the markers we know from before.
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 Posted 05/26/2022  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note the arrows tips:
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...arieties.htm
The 004 has the two the same size. 005 has a weaker lower one. So it is a RDV-004, 'D' Reverse as marked on the slab. What are you seeing different from the RDV-004?
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 Posted 05/26/2022  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrhakfbacon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Intresting find!
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 Posted 05/26/2022  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did a quick look through CoinFacts and it seems like all three plate coins are all RVD-004. I suspect these are very common(possibly half of the run or more) but ANACS takes the time to put it on the slab. Nice coin!
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 Posted 05/26/2022  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will: The 1969-D has 5 variety: RDV-004=very scarce; RDV-005 = common; RDV-006 = rare; RDV-007 = scarce and RDV-008 = rare. This it is the only coin in the series with 5 different RDV's. Now me I miss just 3 the 1963 Type B, the 1965 Type C and 1969-D Type M or G (RDV-007).

Soon I will post the table of the RDV's for 1932 till 1973. For the rest of the years the data it is incomplete.
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 Posted 05/26/2022  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@COOP, when I talk about markers I refer to the Die stage. In my opinion this coin it is stage A. The others coins of this year and type D I see before has some die markers under the tail feathers. This it is. If you can you can open my previous post topic with this coin there will be more photos, inclusive what you post. Me I have no idea how I can do this reopen or look at previous topic I post on the forum.
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 Posted 05/26/2022  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die markers can be there/missing. Depending on how the die aged and the examples were struck before or after the markers. If the dies only struck a few examples, they will all be VEDS examples. Because the dies didn't get a chance to wear with the aging process.

IE: 1964 SMS coins. They used fresh dies for these, so all are early die state coins. True they have reused the same dies later on normal strikes. But all the SMS were a different process than the business strike coins.

So markers only prove a die state at the time the coins were struck. Some markers come and go, but some are permanent is the die event was sever.
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05/26/2022 7:52 pm
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 Posted 05/29/2022  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To Will: I do not know your source, but here attached you has all the NGC varieties certified, I talk with them they want to have and re-certify. This coin is not so daily see. Very soon I will put other Quarters varieties. I do this for the good sake of this forum and education.

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...5041/?page=1

Thanks COOP. Now I understand more how it work. I am ignorant in Dies states but not for varieties.
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