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Possible PO-1 1889-S Morgan Dollar

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Just picked up this lovely example of a lowball today that I actually could see a PO-1.5 if such a grade exists . I just want to see if others concur with this possibility. I could also see FR-2 reasoning come out.

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@mr, would you mind posting the weight of this dollar while we wait for folks to offer their grade opinions? I'm interested to see what percentage of the weight is lost to get to this level of wear. Thx.
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Just a bit too much remaining detail for P-01, I'm at FR-02 Details, scratches
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Looks like a 2 not a 1 to me also https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/#/Morgan/Grades
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Borderline to me - I can see PO01if viewed by a favorable grader. The various scratches appear to be part of the significant wear and are not a distraction at this grade.
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I vote PO-01 all day, you can't take much more off this coin without have it unrecognizable. Not a pretty PO-01 but has the detail of a 1. Maybe eye appeal will drop the grade to a PO-0.
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I think your coin is an 1889s
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I think it has paid for one too many tins of beans. That thing has been through a million hands. Down the corsets of charging ladies and in the pockets of real life cowboys. If it had a memory, I'd love to see what it had seen. My grading expertise lies above F12, so I've no clue on this one.
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I agree with @keith12, this looks like 1889-S.

I hesitate on this one. The central device details don't match the wear near the rims. The peripheral wear is PO-01, but the central details are FR-02/AG-03.


I wonder if a TPG might no-grade it, thinking that the rims could have been ground down and then it was carried as a pocket piece to enhance the wear and cover the damage? If it grades, I think it's FR-02. I don't see any way it could sustain more wear without losing the ability to identify the year.
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In reviewing the date region again, I am making out an 1889-S, as others pointed out. Now onto vamworld.com to see if anything can be made out there.

I only paid a reasonable 29 dollars for this ...
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I am making out an 1889-S, as others pointed out.


Ok fixed your title.
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I'm at 1889-S as well. Always worry that a low-grade specimen could be reduced to this level by an artful dodger.
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I'm getting a pinkish hue on my monitor. Is that just an artifact?
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Fair Details
The reverse would not allow for a straight grade IMO with the cleaning.
I do see the pinkish/reddish tint, but I have seen that before if a scanner was used instead of taking photos

Stick it in your pocket and let it see some rub for a couple of years and it will probably wear down to a straight Poor 1.
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I'm leaning to F2 for grade, but also leaning to an 1899 S- the oval openings in the 9s seem similar, the opening in the 8 seems a bit rounder. The MM doesn't appear to match any 1889s VAMs, but does have 1899 S possibilities. Just this guy's opinion............
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I'm at a 2 as well.
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