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I recently won an auction on ebay that included 6 Morgan silver dollars. I could tell that this person was not really a coin collector because they did not tell what the mint marks were. I thought I would give it a shot and I won. I received the six dollars today. I picked them up during my lunch hour. One of the coins was a 1888-CC. I looked in my Red Book and I could not find a 1888-CC for this year. What do you think is going on here? I also compared it to another Morgan I have with me and it looks identical to me front and back. I will try to email pictures when I get off of work. All input is welcomed. Thanks Edited by Forum Mom to move from Main Coin Forum to Classic US Coin Forum |
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Quote:I looked in my Red Book and I could not find a 1888-CC for this year. What do you think is going on here? What do I think? I think that you were sold a fantasy piece, i.e. one that does not exist in actuality. Unfortunately, that places all the other coins in the "suspect" category as well  Obviously though, pics will be helpful  Edited by biokemist6
02/10/2009 1:52 pm
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I've seen the elusive 1888-CC, it was made in China and had a "simulated" replica stamp on the reverse. (sadly shakes head)
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The Carson City Mint was shut down for political reasons in 1885. In 1884, Grover Cleveland (a Democrat) was elected President, and one of his actions was to remove all of the Carson City Mint officials (Republican appointees all) and shut down the Mint in September 1885. That's why the 1885-CC Morgan had a mintage of only 228,000. No Carson City coins were minted with 1886-1888 dates, because the Mint wasn't open. In 1888, Republican Benjamin Harrison was elected to replace Cleveland, and he again replaced the Carson City officials with his own Republican appointees, and had money allocated for the Mint to resume operations. Note, though - in those days the fiscal year didn't begin until July 1, and it took a while to refurbish the equipment which had been idle for 3 years. For that reason, mintage of 1889-CC Morgans didn't begin until September 9, 1889, and as a result only 350,000 were able to be minted. These were mostly snagged into circulation by a populace needing new silver coins, and as a result 1889-CC Morgans in Mint State are among the most valuable of Morgan dollars. It is therefore a physical impossibility for a Morgan dated 1888-CC to be real. The Mint was not open, except as an assay office. |
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If I post a picture of all 6 coins this afternoon can you guys tell me if they are fake by just looking at them? Or would you need to weigh them? These are really good fakes if they are fake. This is the reason why I am thinking about not even collecting coins anymore. I can't afford a lot of the graded coins and you don't know what the heck you are getting if they have not been graded...
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Connor we'd be glad to help any way we can. Big pictures would be better to make accurate judgments. That said, investing in a small digital scale can be a lifesaver. You can pick them up for $15.
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Seated Nut...Where can you purchase scales at?
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I checked target and they did not have any. Help on this would be appreciated here too.
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I don't know how to add this to my original post but I am trying to upload these pictures. My camera is not the best in the world, but maybe you guys can tell me something from these.  |
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first pic is not very clear
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I know the pictures are not the best in the world but can anybody tell me anything. What kind of action would you take against this seller? What if this seller didn't even know it was fake?  |
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valleycoin, wizard or any of a number of coin dealers have scales.
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second pic really blurry. I would contact seller and see what he has to say. If you can't get a decent picture posted then take them to a dealer. obviously the cc is a fake. but you have 5 others to verify.
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Yeah... get a return on them. If he didn't know the mintmarks at leas he should have known if they were fake.
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The person I bought these from will not return my email. What do I do now? I have never had this happen before. I did pay for them via paypal. Do I have any protection here at all?
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Connor, You can pick up the digital scales on ebay. There's a seller on there that seems to be all they carry. I believe the price was $13.95. Do a search on "digital scale". For you other problem, open a PayPal dispute on the transaction. The 1888-CC is definitely counterfeit and if the seller didn't advertise it as a copy or replica, you're on solid ground. If the seller does not respond to your questions that's another bullet in your gun for a PayPal dispute. You may get your money back and get to keep the counterfeits.  |
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