Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Shop CCF Members on eBay! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Thoughts On Busting Out Slabbed Coins For Filling Album Pages

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 48 / Views: 4,762Next Topic
Page: of 4
Moderator
Learn More...
Dearborn's Avatar
United States
94584 Posts
 Posted 06/23/2022  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I crack out any coins for my albums I too save the labels I can safely remove and label the back with a notation of it's new location then the labels go in a plastic page intended for 2x2's for future reference.
Valued Member
SpeedDemonND's Avatar
United States
357 Posts
 Posted 06/23/2022  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpeedDemonND to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't cracked any out yet, but plan to as I hopefully complete my Dansco Type Set. There are some I just don't want to take the chance buying raw, so I'd have no problems cracking them out. They also wouldn't be uncirculated, so I wouldn't really have to worry about that.
Pillar of the Community
NDBirdman's Avatar
United States
747 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NDBirdman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well frog, someone has to remove that ugly stuff from an otherwise nice coin! I've brought back many an ugly coin, done right, a fugly coin can once again shine bright, naturally.
Valued Member
United States
465 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pmint1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i keep my slabbed dollars in a separate binder and put a common au or bu with the reverse showing in the hole to designate the hole is filled by a certified coin.
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally, an arbiter of ugly slabs.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Winesteven's Avatar
United States
697 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, so I'm going to take the minority position.

My collection started out just building a Type Set. I wanted the peace of mind of knowing the coins were authentic AND were likely the grade I was buying, so starting in the mid to late 1980's, I bought coins graded by the major TPG's. Before that I bought coins with the ANACS certificates.

But just like everyone above, I cracked them out. I liked the large black Capital Plastics holder, as it made for a handsome display, easy to show my friends and relatives. I also kept the Certs.

Here's what happened with me:

1. I started upgrading my set. When I went to sell the dupes, dealers and other collectors would not pay a fair wholesale price for the coin, sometimes saying it was a lower grade.
2. I then sent the dupes to one of the major TPG's for grading, providing them the original Certs. They could care less. A couple of coins graded higher, some stayed the same, and some graded lower!

My conclusions:

1. Someday, you or your heirs will sell your coins, whether for upgrading, or just outright disposition. If it's your heirs selling your collection, you've done them a great financial disservice by cracking out the coins. Had they remained in the slabs, they would have a much greater chance of receiving "fair value" when sold by you or your heirs.
2. Even if you or your heirs send them back in for grading, your results will likely be like mine above, but now an extra expense is incurred in shipping and grading fees!
3. Yes, we all love holding these historic treasures in our hands. But have you ever dropped a coin? I sure have!
4. Keeping the coins in their slabs not only provides the benefits I mentioned above, but also helps to a degree of avoiding or minimizing environmental damage, such as copper coins oxidizing to get darker.

Comments by others of saving the Certs of the cracked out coins sounded in the prior replies like that's the perfect answer. In my experience, those saved Certs did absolutely nothing.

I say all of the above for the only purpose of trying to have some of you not repeat the mistakes I made.

Steve

A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!

My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
Moderator
Learn More...
Dearborn's Avatar
United States
94584 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
those saved Certs did absolutely nothing.

Of course they dont, I just keep mine as a reference of what they were graded at, at one point in time.
On PCGS website has a disclaimer saying once a coin is removed - all bets are off for the grade given. (I didn't quote that directly - but improvised it a little)
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
NumisEd's Avatar
United States
5177 Posts
 Posted 06/24/2022  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
My conclusions:


I agree with you in part, @Winesteven. Certainly, highly valuable coins probably should stay in their slab for protection and ease of resale.
However, many modern slabbed coins can be bought for $25 or less. No shame in cracking these out. It is not like these $25 coins will become $250 coins in the near future.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Winesteven's Avatar
United States
697 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2022  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@NumisEd, I fully agree with you on coins valued in the two digits that my point # 1 - #3 don't apply. But in my opinion, if you're buying a coin for roughly $100 to $200 (or more), then all four of my points apply.

Steve

A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!

My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
Edited by Winesteven
06/25/2022 5:40 pm
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
BStrauss3's Avatar
United States
4587 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2022  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could go the other way... on ebay you can buy little plastic tokens to put in the holes of your album where the coin is certified.

Here's my 7070 Dansco.

But there are no coins, just plastic tokens.

Oh, did I forget to give you the three slab boxes too?
-----Burton
50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973)
Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA
Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club
Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983)

Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Winesteven's Avatar
United States
697 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2022  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@BStrauss3 - Ha! Another idea is what I actually do. When I say, "Here's my 7070 Dansco.", I then say "Click on the hotlink in my "signature line" appearing at the bottom of each of my posts!"

And if they then ask, "Oh, no album?", I then reply, "Oh, you'd prefer to see these coins in an album? Here, click on this hotlink!"

https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/u-...album/213996


Steve

A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!

My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
Edited by Winesteven
06/25/2022 5:41 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
187446 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2022  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To each their own, and I truly mean that, but I am not collecting coins to make my heirs rich.

I hope they appreciate the sentimental value. But if they get sold, I hope they reach a good home for a decent price.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Winesteven's Avatar
United States
697 Posts
 Posted 06/25/2022  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree 110% to each their own, as there is no right or wrong.

However, I believe virtual no collectors have a goal of making their heirs rich. The point I was making is very different. Ignoring changes in market value, assume you spent $1,000 buying slabbed coins. In a fictitious example, it might be reasonable if the coins had remained slabbed, when sold the heirs might net roughly $750 - $850. However, if the heirs sell those coins raw, maybe they'll net roughly $500. If the heirs submit them for grading AGAIN, the expenses of grading that second time may or may not be worthwhile.

My point is that by choosing to crack out, in the end extra expenses, or lower net sales proceeds, will be received, whether by your heirs, or by YOU when you sell coins that are now dupes as a result of upgrades, or by YOU if you choose to dispose of your collection!

Steve

A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!

My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ty...edset/213996
Pillar of the Community
United States
2280 Posts
 Posted 06/26/2022  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm all for busting coins out of slabs for albums
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.

-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Pillar of the Community
Slerk's Avatar
Russian Federation
1555 Posts
 Posted 06/26/2022  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here in Russia, many collectors break slab. For a lot of people, it's just a box. They make such arguments: I want to hold a coin in my hands, the evaluation of coins is not always fair, slab is something new and I am an old-school person.
To be honest, I hate such people. If you say that the slab is bad, why do you buy a coin in a slack? If you send a coin, and then when you sell it, you say that the valuation is undervalued, why did you send it? Are you an expert? Then why don't you sit in the company where you sent the coins and evaluate them?
Of course, sometimes I want to hold a coin in my hands, but even in this case I am against the slab being broken.
My dream is to have my entire collection evaluated by TPG.
  Previous TopicReplies: 48 / Views: 4,762Next Topic
Page: of 4

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.48 seconds to rattle this change. Forums