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Hey CCF, So this is the 6th time I'm trying to make this post. So please forgive me if it's short and direct. I have a VF-EF 1909 S VDB. It seems the mint mark was struck with less than adequate pressure. Then maybe in the polishing process the S was made lightly visible. The pics don't do it justice. But I can see an S there. Has this error already been identified with the 1909 S VDB? Please share any knowledge you have. And estimated values are encouraged. Thank you for your time, help, and wisdom. As always,much appreciated, Just_N_Luck      Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2022 Coin Community Forums It took 0.11 seconds to rattle this change. Powered By: |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sorry, I'm not seeing it.  |
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United States
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Just a 1909 VDB. Location of the dots on the plain and the 'S' mint are different:  Edited by coop
07/11/2022 2:35 pm
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By some of your comments, I get the feeling that you might need to refresh on a coins minting process. Wexler has some good info http://doubleddie.com/1237640.htmlAs valuable and as often counterfeited as the 09-s vdb is, a coin with a maybe mintmark will find acceptance unlikely. |
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Sorry to say I'm not seeing it either. It's more than likely just a surface anomaly in the copper.
The worker setting the MM into the die wouldn't have done a "lite" punching on a MM. Plus any polishing strong enough to remove said MM would have affected the date as well.
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United States
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 I don't see anything either . If you really believe there is an S mint mark then you might want to have it authenticated & graded .  |
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Canada
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In hand is the best to judge but I agree I'm not seeing an S, in a the first photo there is an S shape in the toning but nothing is raised at all and the shape would be way off and to large. This would be a case of pareidolia(this word isn't in my phone dictionary lol)
Polishing of the die would only remove more trace of the mint mark, I personally think it's just a 1909 vdb Philadelphia mint.
Edit:my auto correct likes to change every "of" I type into "if"...idk why.
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07/11/2022 09:29 am
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United States
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Nada. Sans S. John1  |
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United States
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 to the Community! If YOU think it has a washed out / weak / or lightly punched "S" mintmark then send it in for 3rd party authentication and grading. It's been a couple of years since I've made this offer so here we go: "If you send this coin in to ANACS, PCGS or NGC for 3rd party grading, and it slabs as a genuine 1909-S VDB, I will be more than happy to eat my fair share of well-cooked crow pie!" Over my time on this forum I have made similar offers on questionable coins. Not once have I had to cook one up. I don't expect to this time either. |
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I can see in the third photo what you may think is an "S" but it is just a mark on field.
It is too large and the wrong style to be a genuine S mint mark.
Just a regular 1909 VDB Wheatie.
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I'll take half the blow westernsky. If this coin is sent off and is graded 1909S VDB I'll pay for half the charger. It's a decent 1909 and worth saving and .ore then face value but I don't think it's an S
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I have never seen an SVDB with a light MM, it's always clearly there or it's a regular VDB. This is a regular VDB IMO.
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United States
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As JimmyD said, the third photo down does show a mark which is the shape of an S, but appears to simply be coincidental toning variations. In fact, if you look below that, you can see other similar marks/variations closer to the rim and base of the bust...
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Not a San Francisco minted 1909 VDB Cent. It is a cent minted in Philadelphia.
Novel idea though - trying to get the lack of the S to be a San Francisco mint error.
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Sorry, this is not the San Francisco minted 1909 VDB cent, this is just the regular Philadelphia minted cent.  |
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United States
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to the CCF and I can see a small s, but I think it's just a stain. Maybe it's a p trying to identify as an s.  |
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