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Upside-Down Queen. Is This Legit?

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 Posted 08/02/2022  5:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rustoleum to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this toonie in a coin roll today. The centre piece is rotated almost 180 degrees. Any chance this coin left the mint this way?


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 Posted 08/02/2022  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On a two piece coin like the toonie it"s the ring that has to be upset not the insert you have a PMD
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 Posted 08/02/2022  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impossible for that to have happened during the striking of the coin.
Someone has removed the centre core and rotated to.
Have seen these before, it is just an altered coin but still worth $2.00
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 Posted 08/02/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All it takes is a little heat and a little cold and the insert comes right out or loose.
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 Posted 08/02/2022  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it's a pop-out. Not a mint error.Was quite the fashionable thing to do to toonies back when they were first introduced.

When a bimetallic coin is made, the two halves are not produced separately. The core and ring are combined before the coin is struck, then both core and ring are struck at the same time, by a single solid die that has no rotating parts. In effect, the bimetallic planchet is treated as if it were a single solid piece of metal. As such, a "rotated core" cannot happen as a result of a mint error, only by post-strike rotation. And, since actually rotating the core while it's sitting inside the ring is really really hard to do, it's much more likely to have been achieved by popping the core out, then pushing it back in again.

I don't even think heat was used in this example; you can see the dugouts and scratches on the inner rim of the ring, above the date, where someone's hacked away at it with somethign sharp and pointy, trying to get the core out. So it's fair to say that this was no accident.
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