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How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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Some interesting similarities of design to this Groschen from Prussia under Polish Rule. It was minted at Thorn in 1535 AD:

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Another Hungarian Denar for today from me:

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That's a nice 1535 groschen! I think the common history behind both of those 1535 coins (my Elbing and your Thorn) has to do with the gradual incorporation of much of the former "Prussian" (Teutonic Order) lands under the Polish crown between the mid-15th to mid-16th centuries.
Here is the 1534 version
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How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Seventh-Edition!-Ended-At-1380-Waiting-On-1379

and it was a transition year from an earlier bust with a more prominent crown and a goofy pageboy haircut:
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nice pair of Groschen

for 1534 here is a taler-sized religious silver cast and gilded medal from Eastern Europe (engraver: Hieronymus Magdeburger ), mounted in original pendant setting

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OBV Judas kisses Jesus

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REV Joab stabs Amasa in the back while he embraces him
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That is a pretty cool religious medal @1c5.

Here is a tiny (13 mm), uniface Pfennig from the German Countship of Oettingen. It is dated 1533 AD and is listed in Saurma as #1434.

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That is a pretty cool religious medal @1c5.

Maybe a a rare (numismatically) depiction of someone raising a sword on Jesus' behalf?

Same place, same guy, one year earlier for me:
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For AD 1532, I have this 2 Pfennig from the German Bishopric of Passau:

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For AD 1532, I have this 2 Pfennig from the German Bishopric of Passau:
Very nice!

Looks like I needed to bump this earlier. We are falling off the pace!
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We are falling off the pace!


I'll help ... Sigismund I again for 1531, but Gdansk mint:
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How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Seventh-Edition!-Ended-At-1380-Waiting-On-1379

I think the engraver is using the same figure for Z (in DANCZ ... an unusual rendering of the city name) and the 3 in 1531.

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I'll help ... Sigismund I again for 1531, but Gdansk mint:
Fantastic!
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Another uniface silver for me today. This Pfennig was minted at Steiermark, Austria in 1531 AD:

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This 1530 schilling of Elbing (Poland) is the earliest dated coin struck at this mint:
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This Hungarian Denar has some unfortunate edge chips, but is dated 1530 AD:

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A 1529 grosz/groschen of Poland:
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