How Far Back Can We Go? Seventh Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

A bit late to the party, but here are two coins for 1380

Juchid Mongols copper pul


Delhi Sultans billon tanka.

AH 780 / 1378 Amirs of Astarabad, AR 6 dirham.
Obv: Mint and date in words in looped quatrefoil
Rev: Shia Kalima in Hexafoil and the name of 12 Shia imams around.
Type D Album 2343.1. cf.Zeno 324927

Outstanding run, ttkoo!

1376 C.E. / AH 778 Delhi Sultans billon tanks - Firuz Shah Tughluq

8 to go!

1375 C.E. / AH 777 Delhi Sultanate billon tanka - Firuz Shah Tughluq

7 to go!

(tag team with @january1may)

Here is another dated coin from 1375: my Groschen from Aachen, minted in Jungheit.

Incredible coin @Spence! I knew you had one of those but lost track a bit so hadn't realized we've actually gotten that far already.

The 1374 Aachen groschen is extremely expensive (even the 1375 is hardly cheap...), so we probably wouldn't see another AD dated coin in here unless we make it all the way to the 1250s and those weird Crusader Acre types.


On my own end I've almost forgotten that 776 AH was my own entry...



Obverse (?): hexagram, with dots between rays; six-pointed asterisk in center, apparently also with dots between rays; all within round border
Reverse (?): date (reads as x86, but probably 776), Arabic inscription above (illegible on this example); all within round border, which is apparently within dotted border

Anatolia, Beyliks of
uncertain beylik (Menteshe?)
AE fals (?) or mangir (?)
dated [x86?] = probably 776
16x15 mm, 0.98 g

Numista 309426; cf. Zeno 229143, 229144, 272145, 272146 (all attributed to 776)
more distantly cf. Numista 301424, Zeno cat. 5146 (type with similar obverse attributed to Menteshe); even more distantly cf. Numista 345962, Zeno cat. 5456 (type with similar obverse (?) attributed to Karaman [Numista] / Jandar [Zeno]).

Note that the Zeno link in Numista 309426 is not directly relevant - it points to a category of Golden Horde issues that AFAICT does not include anything similar. The relevant Zeno coins are in category 13763, which is a catch-all entry for unattributed Anatolian AE types.

I'm not sure of the origin of the 776 attribution; wherever it comes from, it seems clear that my coin belongs to the same set as the four Zeno coins and the Numista coin, so if they're dated 776 then so is mine.

Vaguely recall reading somewhere that it's been tentatively reclassified as a Golden Horde issue, on account of the known findspots being in Crimea.
(I suspect that my coin was probably originally from the same area, given the context of its purchase.)

[EDIT: compare the anepigraphic issues listed under Numista 301429. It looks like the reference I've read was Numista topic 80345. On Zeno apparently most of those got listed under Menteshe as well.]

that is a very nice addition january1may