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1776 Thaler- Can Anyone Tell Me About This Coin?

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 Posted 08/07/2022  8:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lukec77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is anyone able to help provide me a brief history of this coin and possibly its value? Thought it was a cool find, especially dated 1776 (even though I know it's completely unrelated to U.S. history haha), thank you!


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 Posted 08/07/2022  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jadey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure what history you are looking for, but here is a link to the coin on NGC.

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide...duid-1385191
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As you can see from the NGC catalogue number, German coin collectors place no especial significance on coins of that date. It's just another year to them.

Let's see, what else is there to say?

The mintmark, "A", is of course Berlin, the capital city of Prussia. Prussian mintmarks, and German mintmarks that followed, were assigned letters in order of acquisition by the Prussian state; Berlin is "A" because it was first.

Though the king has no number attached to his title on this coin, this is actually king Friedrich II. Usually spelled "Frederick II" in English. He was the third king of Prussia; his grandfather Frederick I was promoted from "Duke of Prussia" to "King of Prussia" by Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I in 1701. Frederick II was called "Frederick the Great" during his lifetime; the Prussian state had expanded to twice its size during his reign, primarily though military annexation of pieces of Poland.

The language on the obverse is Latin; on the reverse it's German. Neither "Prussia" nor "Frederick" are Latin-derived names, so as is normal in such circumstances, they had to approximate how the names might best translate into Latin.

Frederick II never had children. When he died, his nephew Frederick William II became the next King of Prussia, whose descendants would go on to become the Kaisers of the German Empire.
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@luke, looks like a very nice Reichsthaler. Here is the numista link to help with your research:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces14274.html
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Very nice history from @Sap as always.

Another bit of history ...
The thalers struck in Prussia at this time were of a different size and silver content than those struck since 1486 in other parts of central Europe.
Historically, the pure silver content of thalers struck in Holy Roman Empire territories was fixed at 25.9 grams (9 to the Cologne mark) in the mid-1500s.
However, these Prussian thalers contain only 16.7 grams of pure silver (14 to the Cologne mark).

Yep, in Prussia in 1776 a thaler just wasn;t worth what it used to be
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