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1966 P LMC Unusual Die Crack

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 Posted 08/09/2022  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With it going up onto the rim as it does, it reminds me of a retained strikethrough.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a conventional die crack. While it's a bit wider than usual, it's nothing out of the ordinary.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mahaloz Mike!
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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If it is a crack this long and wide, why would it take 56 years to be discovered? How many thousands of these were minted? This coin looks to be an EDS. They wouldn't retire the die for this, there should be thousands of them out there. Not something that would be looked over and not saved by someone.I That's why I think this is a one-off strike through.
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I agree with CuJohn about why was not before discovery. The 66 strike 120 to 150 coins by die. Other thing, the die crack so large and the Rim is not affected? the die crack inside near the border so long and large and the tinny concave side of the die resist and do not crack?

I am sorry this time I do not agree with Mike.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a very cool die crack! Unusually large. I remembered this post from a while ago from the same die:

http://goccf.com/t/344898

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 Posted 08/09/2022  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes COINH, but that coin is not same with this one, complete different. Just put the two photos one near other and you will see the differences.
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I took a couple more photos for everyone to chew on. The points that 1) Why hasn't this been discovered before & 2) Why is not more of the die affected by a large crack as this seem valid. I'm no die expert though. From the photos I don't see a separation from the feature and the die as you would see in a delam or struck through case so a die crack makes sense to me. Thanks for the discussion CCF.

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"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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I think it is a die crack - a long thin, tall one that possibly got folded over. (like a Rim Fin) Looking at it again, a crack that wide you would see movement or separation of the memorial. Also as Spence states, this is a location where we see lots of die cracks.
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CoinHunter27 I stand corrected. There are 2 of them out there. Blows my one-off strike through explanation clear out of the water. Still weird how wide and flat it is. I wonder if COC will list this as a die crack or a Cud. I see some that wide listed as a Cud. 55 and 57 have a couple.
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Thanks CoinHunter27 for that link. I must have missed your post earlier but that is a great reference and shows this was happening to other 66 dies.

Cujohn, you are right that this could be considered a Cud, at least in comparison to others listed. It is wider than several of those 57's.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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