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1814 Capped Bust Half Dollar Grade

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State the grade, this will start off as a You vs. NGC, then we will go from there. Brownie points to whoever gets the Overton variety. Seller's pics for now, this coin is en route. Will post in-hand closeups when it arrives.

EDIT: The holder is very scratched up. I was sent photos with multiple angles in which the scratches showed on the plastic, not on the coin.
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Obverse looks AU-55 and it appears that all the hairlines are actually on the lens. The reverse however looks XF in sharpness but I know these early halves are known for weak strikes. Still it looks like some rub on the talons. I think the eagle's head, neck and right wing are the result of a weak strike. Reverse for me is AU-50 and that would net grade the coin to AU-53 in my opinion.
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Oh, nice obverse and reverse clashes too! Does the overton variety have something to do with the position of EPU in relation to STATES ?
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I'll agree with AU-53. There appears to be some wear present in the hair, talons, and feather tips. The luster doesn't appear to be strong enough to warrant a mid-AU grade. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if the lack of luster on the reverse held the coin back to an AU-50. Interestingly enough, despite being minted four years later, this coin is similar to the 1810 Capped Bust Half that I just got, in that, the left feather is quite weakly struck.
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Oh, nice obverse and reverse clashes too! Does the overton variety have something to do with the position of EPU in relation to STATES ?

Yes, the clashes are very neat. I will crack this one and take some closeups of them. The variety is very unique, let's just say the chief engraver at the time, John Reich, was having a bad day...

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1810 Capped Bust Half that I just got, in that, the left feather is quite weakly struck

Definitely! The strike quality is poor in the early days of the CBH. This variety in particular seems to have consistent weakness.

Thank you guys for your opinions, much appreciated!
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Pictures aren't large enough for me to assess and I don't know what the overton numbers are off hand but it would appear that you have a 1814 over 3 variety or the E over A variety.
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The more I look at the coin, the more I'm actually leaning towards AU-50. It's a gorgeous coin with excellent eye appeal. However, upon closer inspection, I just think it's a bit too flat in some spots to be an AU-53. With that said, I think I'll go ahead and change my vote to AU-50.
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O-108a. Eagle is usually smooth on these even in higher grades so I think this should be an XF40. Nice luster but I think the wear on eagle's right wing, leg, and talon holds it back, compared to the typical AU's. For those guessing AU, compare it to graded examples, this is not like your usual CBH.

(I know what NGC gave it so I'm interested to hear your opinion on this).

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@Ploopy, when I looked at the coin a second time, I thought that just on detail alone, it looked to be in the XF-40 range. However, given that it seems to display some luster, I thought that AU-50 would be a more appropriate grade. With that said, wouldn't this half be, at minimum, an XF-45 with the luster present?
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EF-45 108a...that clashing is very appealing!
Look fwd to your crack out pic's!
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@CoinEnthusiast, compare to graded examples and you'll see VF and even XF examples with luster. I could see an argument for XF45.
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first thought was AU53. even taking into consideration the weak reverse i'll net it to AU50 but I can see why some are going with XF45
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I know the grade, so I won't guess, but it's a great example of O-108a with unusually heavy clashing. Congrats on the purchase!
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I'll go out on a limb and say AU55.
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Looks AU-50 to me.
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Au-50 for me as well. Good luster and love the clashing.
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