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1959 Type B Washington Quarter - First A In The Quarter Looked A Little Odd

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 Posted 02/18/2009  10:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rienzope to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I discovered a type b quarter in a 1959 mint set (Philidelphia). I also noticed that the first A in the quarter looked a little odd, as if the die was hand tooled to make the opening in the A bigger. The second A looks normal.

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I've attached a couple of photos - they were taken through the plastic.
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 Posted 02/18/2009  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a typical die crack along the left wing. Picture of the whole coin would help.
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These photos were from a microscope. I'll try to scan it and get another view.

The first pic was included just to show that it's a type b reverse. It's actually not a die crack, but the plastic.

The second pic shows the irregular A
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The left wing looks like second hand light from a different source. By placing an envelope next to the coin , the unwanted light is blocked. a facial tissue also works if you know the direction. easy to determine, just move hand in front of coin under the scope and find the direction the unwanted light is coming from, or just shut off the unwanted light.
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Here are a couple of scanned images. I think this is as clear as I can get it without opening the mint seal.

In the first image "Arrow 1" points to what could be described as the "Diamond A", where the opening in the A appears to be enlarged and diamond shaped. The edge of the opening is slightly raised too. "Arrow 2" points to the normal A in "dollar", where the opening is smaller and the edge even with the rest of the letter.

The second photo is simply a full shot of the reverse, but you can still see the irregularity.

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I was looking how the light hit that area. It still looks like a die crack to me. No big thing.

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It could be a crack then. It should look raised if it was a crack. If it is incuse, it would be damage.
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I don;t think it;s a die crack I think it;s just damage the coin on the reverse has a lot of scratches I think it;s just a scratch

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Rockdude I think your right. There is a die crack that runs along the wing. It looks like it runs from the space between the D and S and then runs down the wing about halfway between the U of united and the tip of the wing.

Any thoughts about the irregular A?
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It is a die crack. it is very common on the silver quarters. I have a lot of them. It is one of the reasons I collected quarters, and other coins with cracks as well. The States series have a large number of them with a crack that runs from the high point on the bust, across to the right, and then over to the Pony-tail, and down to the rim. That is not to say that all have it this was, only to show how far it can run to the right. It also will go from the same opint, and into the field, then over , and down to the rim. I have a lot of them, that I was keeping to show a progression of the crack. One of these days, I'll have to check to see how complete it is.
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rienzope, Welcome to the forum! You are right, it is a crack. it nearly always is visible on the left wing, as you view it. Very seldom have I seen one on the right wing, wnd when it was there, the coin also shows a very late die state, with DDD You will also see a lot of MD, in the lower areas by the perch, and in the cactus stems, and leaves. Quite often in "quarter dollar".These were the only coins I collected, after having gotten back into collecting again, a few years ago. I beklieve the reason for this being so prevelant in that particular area, is due to the high relief, and briusk change along that edge, that causes the die to crack very quickly.

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The "A" on Dollar is different on the type B.
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