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Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 11:18 am I picked this one up because of the cracks on the reverse. I see some clashing but no letter transfer. Is this one attributable? I've been through some of the listings, but don't see one that matches, yet. Thanks for your help. "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff

dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 12:24 pm Try 19A Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 3:39 pm Quote: Try 19A Tried and agreed! Dave, I'll say it again - you are a true VAM Master! Thanks, again, for your help. "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 3:41 pm Quote: 1883-O Nut By the way - I've always meant to ask about your obsession with 1883-O. Tell us why that particular date/MM combo appeals to you. No doubt, you've done an exhaustive die study? Edited for spelling "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Edited by Bump111 08/15/2022 3:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 4:25 pm I have about 75 Morgans dated 1883-O with 17 of them being VAM-1C, from EDS 1C1 in DMPL to LDS 1C2 where the Eagles' right wing tip is about to break out to the 1C3 stage (still need a true 1C3) The day I joined VAMWorld1 there was a post about the 1C and it caught my interest. I immediately went to ebay looking for unattributed examples. The first one I found was the 1C2 LDShttp://goccf.com/t/126546&SearchTerms=VAM,1C2 Then I followed up with a few more. http://goccf.com/t/129090&SearchTerms=1883-O http://goccf.com/t/139873&SearchTerms=1883-O The DMPL EDS VAM-1C1 example http://goccf.com/t/186431&SearchTerms=1883-O And this lowball example. http://goccf.com/t/227654&SearchTerms=1883-O I decided along the way to start collecting other 1883-O VAMs since I was looking at so many. Many are posted here in the VAM section and many more are not. http://goccf.com/t/264682&SearchTerms=1883-O My die study of 1883-O is tiny compared to a couple of VAMWorld members including Ray Sanchez(aka raynat) and Nate Milliard (aka twodsonegf on CCF - RIP) who actually did perform the die study. I actually met Ray at a coin show in Dallas a few years back. Funny story, I walked up to a table/ case full on rattler Morgans and asked the gentleman if I could look at his 1883-O Morgans. His reply was after the person standing next to me was finished. Turned out to be Ray Sanchez. While talking 1883-O VAM stuff he pulled a DMPL 1C1 out of his pocket that he cherry picked earlier that day. It was a beauty and a slightly earlier strike than my example from the look of it. Great guy all around... edit to add - my apologies for loading up your post topic.... Edited by dave700x 08/15/2022 4:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 4:37 pm By the way, there is a hot topic/ debate going on VAMworld2 right now regarding the die issue seen on the 1883-O 1C reverse and more specifically the 1889 VAM-23A, B, 7A, B obverse. My pony is on the side line for that one. I worked in the tool and die business for 40 years and know the cause. That is part of the allure for me collecting 1C's and I also have a few others from the buffed reverses list. Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 5:07 pm I'm very glad you decided to talk about your 1883-O interest. Fascinating things can be found in this VAM thing! I'm a recent convert of about one year and only find time here and there to hunt for them. I am going to go back and read the posts you linked for reference. I wouldn't say I am focusing on any certain issue, but I find myself drawn to the 1900O and 1880O series more often than not. And, who doesn't like the endless "crackiness" of the 1921Ds! I recently joined SSDC to gain access to their library. I haven't been on the VAMWorld forum very much, but will also look for the discussion you mentioned. You are a valued resource here on CCF! Thank you for the many times you've answered my questions. "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 5:12 pm By the way - I think the prettiest Morgan by far I have acquired is an 1883O VAM-52a. The concavity somehow adds to the flash of the coin. "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 08/15/2022 9:05 pm I appreciate your kind words and yeah, 52A is a cool die stage. A few of the not so common but cool issues of '83-O are 1D, 2 and 33. Edited by dave700x 08/15/2022 9:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3350 Posts	Posted 08/16/2022 3:34 pm Quote: A few of the not so common but cool issues of '83-O are 1D, 2 and 33. I'll keep an eye peeled! "Nummi rari mira sunt si sumptus." - Filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
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