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Will toning continue if I encapsulate my coins. I have some Morgans that are toning and they look real nice. I want the toning to cotinue, but I also want to protect them as well. At the moment they are all in 2x2's. I would like to put them in the same type of holders as the grading holders.
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Once toning starts, it will continue, it may not be as quick in an air tight.
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Toning is usually caused by the environment that the coin is stored in, it can be a hot humid area or subject to fumes from things like wood stain in a drawer- a number of things can cause it. If you remove/protect it from the toning environment, then the toning should stop or at least dramatically slow. However, if there is a contaminant on the surface of the coin itself, the toning will continue until said contaminant is removed.
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Basically as noted already true. HOWEVER, almost all toning, tarnishing, corroding, etc have to do with outside agents such as Oxygen, Nitrates, Sulfites, Sulfates, etc. If you seal any metal from those elements the continuing of the problem would normally stop. Even a bit of the agent that is causing toning, for example, if not catalytically motifated, would cease or slow down to almost nothing. A 2x2, for example is far from air tight so toning could possibly continue based on the temperature, where stored, how stored and many other possible reasons for the toning.
And note that if toning continues on a coin it may well turn into a just solid blackish mess.
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Have any pictures of the coins?
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If I knew how to put up some pics I would do it but I don't know how yet. I hope people keep on talking about toned coins this way we all learn from each other. I like raw coins and toned some naturally. Meaning, that I put them in older type of Wayte Raymond albums and the coins tone very nice. Once toned to the desired colors which 90% of the times are nice Rainbow colors I take the coins out and put them in air-tite ring or square holders for storage in categories. I will keep on trying to put a couple of pictures so you all can see how I put them to tone.
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Edited by simplycolors
03/16/2009 8:13 pm
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simplycolors,  to the Forum. I have a few of those same old albums. Approx. how long would it take to form the toning and what kind of environment do you store them in? I have a few in my drawer with no toning yet. swcoin.ecrater.com
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simplycolors, to the Forum. I have a few of those same old albums. Approx. how long would it take to form the toning and what kind of environment do you store them in? I have a few in my drawer with no toning yet.
Read the explanations on toning that have been just posted. Notice that toning is caused by a chemical reaction. The amount of toning, type of toning, time for toning is completely dependant on the temperature, humidity, gasses in the area, etc. These all vary considerably with locations. If your interested in Toning of coins you may be interested in a place called the TC forum. That is for Toned Coins. |
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Just Carl, we could talk in this forum as well. Although you are right on the chemistry of the toning process, If you don't want to join in this topic then I would suggest that you don't join the chat and go to the forum you like. vermontensium, It depends on where you live also. I am a floridian and we get humidity here. Climate plus the sulfur content in this older albums mean much and faster toning. The coins that you see that are toned in there have been in there for just over 3 year & a half maybe more. If you put Gem BU coins in those albums You should see a slight change in color though withing some months I would say. Advice to all out there. Ignore people out there that don't want you to chat here about what we like, in this case "toned coins". Some other places are only 3 or 5 people, here there are thousands from what I see. We can learn from each other and share each other experiences. We can even learn how to stay away from fakes as well. this would be another topic I will be writing about soon. Why not start something new where we are at? by the way, this is the 3rd album. http://s483.photobucket.com/albums/...959-1964.jpgsimplycolors Edited by simplycolors
03/17/2009 9:11 pm
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Advice to all out there. Ignore people out there that don't want you to chat here about what we like I'm pretty sure everyone knows that won't be found here  There are lots of varying opinions, and we all respect each other's. We do draw the line at someone being purposely unethical, spiteful, or otherwise non-family-friendly, but that sort of thing really doesn't happen often here. Just Carl, thanks for the toned coin forum name - I hadn't heard of that one. simplycolors, if you do a search on toning on this forum, you will find quite a few interesting conversations to also peruse. And |
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Oh - chris12018 - I think it's Coin World (someone correct me if I'm wrong?) that carries slabs you could use to put your coins in. As already stated, it should slow down/stop the toning process since they'll be removed from the environment that's causing it, and you can enjoy the current colors without risking them changing too quickly. As just carl said, if the toning continues they turn black, and that's definitely not as attractive. I'll try to find a link to the slabs I'm talking about and post it. |
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Just Carl, we could talk in this forum as well. Although you are right on the chemistry of the toning process, If you don't want to join in this topic then I would suggest that you don't join the chat and go to the forum you like.
Instead of false comments you should note I attempting to give information as to a location where more extensive research and information on toning is available. Yes we all could discuss toning here but wouldn't it be more educational to look at a place where such a subject has been discussed by experts on that subject? We all here use our best judgement to help and educate others in the field of coins. So referencing other locations that are specific in an item is also for educational purposes. |
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I have a few of those same old albums. Approx. how long would it take to form the toning and what kind of environment do you store them in? I have a few in my drawer with no toning yet.
If you want to continue the no toning on those coins, you may want to try what I've been doing for many, many years. Place the entire album in a Zip Lock Plastic Bag. As you close it push out as much air as possible. I presently have well over 100 Albums in those. Some time back someone suggested those machines that suck out all the air in a plastic bag. Sounded like a great idea but I haven't tried that yet. If no air gets to those coins, they will stay like they are for ever possibly. |
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