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Carl Wilhelm Becker Forgeries In Amazing Condition

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 Posted 08/27/2022  4:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey Guys,
Could use some help. Found these coins and was so enthralled in the sherlock holmes researching and finding what coins they were and when I found out they were Ancient Roman coins from Titus and Nerva I was floored. Then I decided to look at the sides of the coin and was heart broken when I saw a huge BECKER written on the side. I knew they were fakes but in doing more research I found that even BECKER forgeries are worth a little money. Can anyone tell me about these? Would they be worth even having someone authenticate? Grade? Or could these be Becker forgery forgeries?
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 Posted 08/28/2022  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinerin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any help would be so appreciated!!
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 Posted 08/28/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Badger Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, this is not a Carl Becker forgery from the 19th century, it is a Becker Reproductions, Inc. copy from the 20th century.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, the term "Becker replica" now refers to two different kinds of fake ancient coin.

Karl Wilhelm Becker was a middle-class German coin collector in the early 1800s. He had bought an expensive ancient coin from an aristocratic numismatist, which turned out to be fake. On being challenged, the aristocrat basically told him "Tough luck, buyer beware". There were no laws protecting consumers or preventing counterfeiting ancient coins back then. So Becker decided to get even with the aristocratic numismatists who ripped him off by becoming a coin forger and selling them fake coins for full price. He was found out, but rather than being repentant, he proudly boasted he had fooled many collectors and museums. After his death in 1830, a more-or-less complete catalogue of his replicas was compiled. Modern scholarship into ancient coins shows many "mistakes" Becker made, which helps identify Becker replicas residing in collections. They are now considered to be 200 year old historic artifacts in their own right, and in some cases are even more expensive than the genuine coins they purport to copy.

"Becker Reproductions Ltd" was a mid-20th century fake-coin-making business founded by American fake-master Peter Rosa, with no direct connection to the original Karl Becker. His theory was to create replicas of rare and expensive ancient and historic coins that normal collectors couldn't afford to buy. It was his advertisements in the numismatic magazines of the 1950s and 1960s, which openly sold unmarked replicas of ancient coins, that saw the introduction of the Hobby Protection Act in 1973. Rosa disagreed vehemently with the Act's requirement that replica coins be stamped with "COPY" on the face; he believed marking "BECKER" onto the rim was sufficient to deter fraud. Of course, scraping an inscription off the edge of an replica ancient coin is much easier to do that trying to un-deface "COPY" from the face. Rosa reproductions are also well-documented, thanks to his own sales catalogues, but they are nowhere near old enough to be considered "valuable collectables" in their own right. There are people who collect them, but they don't tend to want to pay much of a premium above scrap metal value. And, thanks to the Act, it is now illegal to openly offer for sale such replicas. ebay will flat out refuse to allow them to be listed.

Your coin is, needless to say, a coin from that "second Becker". The TPGs might authenticate a Becker replica as such, but will probably not authenticate a Rosa replica.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add: "Rosa replicas" are still being made, though without the "Becker" edge-stamp. Rosa himself mostly quit the coin replica business once the Hobby Protection Act was passed, but when Peter Rosa passed away, his nephew inherited the family collection of coin dies, and the coins continue to be made and sold from the coinreplicas.com website. The current replicas are Act-compliant,with COPY stamped on the face. Here's your Nerva sestertius, for example; you can see "COPY" stamped under the palm tree.
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 Posted 08/29/2022  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a replica Rosa didrachm I purchased with knowing what it was. The reverse has the "copy" stamp.


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