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Help Identifying Coins From My Great Grandfather (Mostly Chinese) (Id: Likely Chinese Counterfeits)

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My great grandfather was in the foreign service in the early 1900's and did a lot of travelling. I'm just looking for a place to start to see learn about the origins and meanings of these coins and any history behind them.

I think they are mostly from China but maybe some from India or Russia?

I'll try to get better pictures in the near future. I horizontally flipped one of each image to the positions would match up for the front and back (upper left to upper left for example).

Thanks so much!


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It looks like there are two similar ones. One is the 29th Year of Kuang Hsu Hu Poo and the same one for the 33rd year. I'm not 100% sure of course. That's pretty neat.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces243222.html
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It looks like another one is the 20 cent 1933 China Soviet Republic coin.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42448.html
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It looks like the middle one of the second row of the second picture is this one.

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They all appear to be from asia most likely Chinese. They also have the dark edge toning widely associated with counterfeits. I am pretty sure atleast half (probably all) are counterfeit but cant be positive without close-ups.
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I'm not really worried about counterfeits since I wasn't going to sell them but they also came from someone who traveled there in the early 1900's for the US government so that makes them real to me :)
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You will get better answer if they are posted individual obverse and reverse clear pictures the people here are very knowledgeable and helpful . It will better let you know exactly what you have weather real or counterfeit. Good luck
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It should be pointed out that these are not the most-common-seen fakes, of Chinese dollars, These are smaller. Most have a weight of "1 mace 4.4 candareens"; this is one-fifth of the weight of the dollar (7 mace 2 candareens), which makes them 20 cent pieces.

There is one there that isn't Chinese: the smallest one, with British King Edward VII's portrait on the obverse. Looks like it's a Straits Settlements half-cent or quarter-cent; "Straits Settlements" were what we now call Malaysia and Singapore. The problem is, such coins are supposed to be bronze, and that coin looks as silvery as all the others.

The two with the map of Taiwan on it are more recent than the rest; they are Taiwan 50 cent coins from 1949.
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