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Italy
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Edited by Roma2021
09/20/2022 09:13 am
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@roma, that is an interesting bunch. If I could only keep one, it would be the one without the hole, but with a little more detail.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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@spence... I'm torn between that one and the larger one with the tear at the bottom....these coins seem to attest to the hast with which they were minted...the french only occupied Rome for about 19 months...and I've seen few without some type of flaw. I imagine the hole is from the production,.no one would be punching these for metal content. Right?
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Well maybe. To me, there are only three reasons why coins have holes in them: casting bubbles, to turn into jewelry, or to hang from a nail. I suppose this could instead be a perfectly round planchet flaw, but that seems unlikely to me.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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I would keep the top one, it has the most details from what I can see. The holes and edge damage are most likely from minting, I don't think quality was the prime concern. From the looks of them, I suspect the bronze used came from varied sources (like melted bronze objects; the French revolutionaries melted church bells for coinage, with similar results). So the damage is a testimony to the conditions under which they were produced, which for me just gives some added value.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh no! My two primary sources disagree!
I'll have a closer look tonight and think a bit ...
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Oh no! My two primary sources disagree! Nothing "right" when it comes to what you like in a coin. Just go ahead and pick the third one as your favorite!  Quote:
I suspect the bronze used came from varied sources (like melted bronze objects ... I actually found a text about precisely that, how these coins were often made from "the bronze of bells and statues": CNI vol XIV, p 222. |
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Maybe take our difference of opinion as a sign that all of them are worthy coins. No harm in having a duplicate too.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Thank you both, again, and always... The cite is great @era. The condition of the metal on these is the least or most attractive and much of the appeal.
Before era's cite, I was thinking/assuming they were just minted crudely cut planchettes from found metal...
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Edited by Roma2021
11/01/2023 6:27 pm
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I, too, generally don't like to keep "duplicates". If I had to pick one of these, I'd pick the one that preserves the most detail, and on which the name of the country of issue is most readable. That sees to be the top one.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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@roma, instead of adding your comment here, please open a thread over in the member sales subforum (link below). You should of course reference this thread if you want to bring attention to the various thoughts above. Thx. http://goccf.com/f/159"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
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Sorry @spence. I haven't done this before on the forum and wasn't sure of how to.
I think I corrected it now.
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