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Edited by PileOfCoins 09/22/2022 9:43 pm
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Really Machine Doubling? If anything I'd go for ejection doubling. But this isn't some small pushed out flat surface. And would you have any links to a machine double like this one? I honestly have never seen such a thing. Nice clean cuts and edges. I'm honestly trying to learn so if you have any sort of links id appreciate them. I did look at variety vista but that one didn't look like this. But if I did focus on IGWT it is similar that u in mine no way that's not double die.
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@pile, using the CCF search function with the following keywords: 1971 S DIME MD, I found this prior discussion: http://goccf.com/t/396305It would surprise me if there weren't others as well, but this should get you started on your research. I'm sure @coop and others will weigh in at some point as well, but I agree that your coin looks like Machine Doubling rather than a doubled die.
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Unfortunately that is certainly Machine Doubling. Keep hunting! Awesome pieces come up here and there. Eventually something big will come along! -CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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Spence, I did search the same thing and honestly you think that flat machine double is the same thing as this? I'm seriously trying to understand if it's md cool no problem. But that post you sent the link for is an example of a small flat Machine Doubling. Not what your seeing here with what I've posted correct? If I need to I'll get you some more photos. If it's md then it's upside down md. The top layer is the flattened part compared to what's on the bottom layer. I keep hearing this name Coop. Guy must be super knowledgeable? That's exciting
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@pile, thinking the wow factor is not real. 
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Yes there are a couple people who have devoted tneir collecting to errors and are super knowledgeable. @coop is one of those while I'm more of a scrub. There are several other experts here, but @coop is one of the more prolific.
With that said, your doubling is shelf-like and causes the letters to be reduced in size. To me that means it is MD. Let's see what the others think.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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I posted a few MD coins and every time I thought I found one. Spence linked me to this Coop post, and I am still no pro, but it helped me more than any other post...... http://goccf.com/t/320844
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the step like appearance is more indicative of MD than DDO.
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Honestly some of ya are some Pretty rude. I'm here trying to learn and understand then their is guys like you that instead of explaining why you think it's one way you just spew nonsense. If ya don't like what I have to say then move along.
Edited by PileOfCoins 09/22/2022 10:38 pm
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Ok looking back at the pics I took ya I see why you guys thought it was just flat. I get it now. But look at second set of photos you'll get it. As you can see now if the photos as to why I think you are incorrect. It's not some flat shelf. It's an entirely same or thicker device. I'm not trying to argue. I'm simply trying to understand. MD is a small flat shelf that removes part of the device from its original form. So what happens when the bottom part of the device is just as thick and wide as the top layer? Or how about in the R where it kind of has a huMp on the curve how would it have that doubled? Would it not only smash it flat and not mimic the hump?
Edited by PileOfCoins 09/22/2022 10:42 pm
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Sorry this it is not an error DDO. Took me some time to analyze all the photos and the thinking of the lines, circles, etc. It is characteristic for double strike small coins for proof on horizontal presses of that time. In fact I never see yet an DDO real on dimes for this year. Could be one somewhere, but at this moment never see. What you has I see before, and it is just surface some kind of grease from strike. We see this also in the modern proof coins. What it is nice with your coin it is the proof quality. In that year the San Francisco change the rules for prepare the proof dies. What mean this, for the first time the dies was polis with diamond paste by the machine then manually with diamond paste. After the dies go too clean process, but some how some paste remain and the coins show this apparently doubling. If you clean the coin everything go away. Hope help you and the forum. PS. according with my books I past aprox 12.5 K dimes proof for this year.
Edited by silviosi 09/22/2022 10:54 pm
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