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1961-D LMC Counter Clash? (Reload)

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Here it is an 1961D LMC which I believe it is an Type II Counter Clash
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 Posted 10/07/2022  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What attribution number? https://www.maddieclashes.com/
I do not think it is a CC,maybe a lamanation or just PMD.
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 Posted 10/07/2022  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't find on Mad. Seem to be like CCL(TII)-1C-1969S-01
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Note the reverse is showing contact from another coin on the tops of the devices. (Damage to the coin) A counter clash affects the fields raised there:
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https://www.error-ref.com/?s=Counter+Clash
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Thanks COOP, I understand. My dilemma it is raise, and correspond at an overlapping coin dimensions. And also the Die Gauche on the letter T correspond with the dimensions of the building corner I put in red circle.
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Your coins planchet laminated before strike . It's just happenstance and location for its resemblance to the Memorials columns
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Well I think we can all agree that there is a die chip on that letter T. As to the repeating structures on the rev, I agree that they look most like a series of lams. Under close inspection, the spacing isn't consistent between "columns" and so I think lam is the more likely explanation.
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Thanks to everybody who took the time to analyze and respond.
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If this one had laminated after the strike there would have been a "ghost" image of the design in the lam. This coin only shows the design where enough metal was present to fill the die.
Lam before strike coins are more desirable in my book.
Nice find !
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Thanks STONE
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I agree that it's a lam. Looks like it's in a holder What does the holder say?
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 Posted 10/08/2022  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is not in holder from TPG. I keep my coins in holders (my own production) and when I have to analyze a coin I just insert in the inner, so like this I can manipulate the coin without touch.

I offer those slabs for sell here for the members at the proper subforum. Go to see all my patented products.
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I'll have to check them out.
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