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What Is This Million Dollar Note?

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Someone contacted me that adamantly believes this is a real note - printed by the BEP but never circulated. His theory is this:
These were probably produced by the federal reserve, as the yanks had to pay massive sums to China at the time.
The Chinese wouldn't accept bonds anymore, and wanted gold.
This was the compromise, that's why they aren't in circulation, bank to bank only.


Spink Auctions London supposedly told him million dollar notes WERE printed so he thinks his is legitimate.

Proving the lack of existence of something is hard and arguing on the internet is stupid, but has anyone heard something like this?

We all know this is just a novelty item, right? I'll post more pictures if I get them.

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How about you post the entire bill both sides.
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 Posted 10/12/2022  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is all I have unfortunately. I asked for more pictures, but he was like "where do you live?" USA

They won't like this there, it's inprisonable .
I thought you were in Europe.
Forget I spoke.


I think this person believes what they want and I made the mistake of engaging them in a discussion.

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Yeah just as I thought. It's likely a ''strategic" picture to get around disclaimers.
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Have you googled 1928 million dollar note? I just did,you will find your answer there.
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It's a Fantasy or Novelty note. I've seen several different examples over the years. Some have Franklin, some have Washington and I've seen some with the Statue of Liberty on the front. I've only held one and the printing was not intaglio and the paper was regular wood-pulp paper and not security or bond paper used when printing our currency.
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everyone knows this was definitely the note given to Dr. Evil to pay Earth's ransom
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Thanks all. I knew it too, but just wanted to be able to show this person that others agree. Citing the internet, several reference books, this forum, etc wasn't enough.

I suggested contacting PCGS, PMG, or Heritage but he will only believe what he want to hear. He still truly believes it's worth 1.5 million and will be imprisoned if he sends another picture.
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Banknotes cannot be "printed in secret". There must be legal authorization for every banknote issued, otherwise it's not really a banknote.

This note claims to be a "Federal Reserve note" - those words are printed there, right at the top of it. That means, if it were genuine, its creation and existence must be covered by the Federal Reserve Act.

Section 8 of the Federal Reserve Act lists the denominations the Federal Reserve is allowed and authorized to issue. It states:

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In order to furnish suitable notes for circulation as Federal reserve notes, the Secretary of the Treasury shall cause plates and dies to be engraved in the best manner to guard against counterfeits and fraudulent alterations, and shall have printed therefrom and numbered such quantities of such notes of the denominations of $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $500, $1,000 $5,000, $10,000 as may be required to supply the Federal reserve banks. Such notes shall be in form and tenor as directed by the Secretary of the Treasury under the provisions of this Act and shall bear the distinctive numbers of the several Federal reserve banks through which they are issued.

The Federal Reserve bank is legally not permited to issue any other denominations, other than those listed in this Section. To the best of my knowledge, this section has only been amended three times since it was first written: in 1918, the denominations of $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 were added to the list of permitted denominations; in 1963, $1 and $2 notes were added to the list of permitted denominations, and in 1994 the person in charge of the printing plates was changed from the "Comptroller of the Currency" to the "Secretary of the Treasury". There is no evidence of either the addition or deletion of permission to create and issue million dollar notes.

For a million dollar Federal Reserve note to exist, there must be some publicly available record of its existence, in this Act, as well as records of the numbers of such notes that were actually printed and numbers of notes eventually redeemed and destroyed. The serial number printed on this purported note implies at least 64,300 of them were printed - that's 64 billion dollars worth of banknotes, which is not a trifling amount of money that you can just bury in the Federal Budget and hope nobody notices.

There is no such evidence, and no such records. Therefore, there can be no such note.

Finally, of course, we have the fact that the portrait used on this purported note is identical to the portrait used on the regular $100 note. If million dollar notes had been issued, a different portrait, not used on any other denomination, would have been used. Using the exact same $100 portrait on a $1,000,000 note would have made it too easy for counterfeiters.
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Spink Auctions London supposedly told him million dollar notes WERE printed so he thinks his is legitimate.

Million-pound notes have been printed and issued by the Bank of England (for inter-bank use only). They've even issued 100-million-pound banknotes. But the United States has never issued any notes above $100,000 and no Federal Reserve notes above $10,000.

I have difficulty believing Spink were unaware of these facts.
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Thanks for that extremely thorough explanation. That was exactly what I was looking for. Whether this person believes it, I have doubts.
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$100,000 is the largest denomination Federal Reserve Note. They had a couple in the BEP in D.C. when I visited there a few years ago.
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$100,000 is the largest denomination Federal Reserve Note. They had a couple in the BEP in D.C. when I visited there a few years ago.

No, those are Gold Certificates, not Federal reserve Notes.
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