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Hello! I appreciate any help with ID of this byzantine follis. About 26-30,5 mm, 12,43 g.  Thanks! |
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Thanks for your suggestions. But to be honest I didn't find any similiar Maurice Tiberius follis and definitely Justinian with beard. I'm adding two more (I believe far better) photos from the seller.   Edited by DagonX
10/22/2022 6:20 pm
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Well it's not Justinian I for sure, he didn't have a year 4 regnal date. After that the legends rapidly became corrupt, so it's hard to tell who's who. That V near the end means it's probably not Phocas but I don't think I can rule out anyone else offhand.
That said, best I can tell from Wildwinds, Maurice Tiberius appears to be the only option for a single-bust Nicomedia follis with a large M and RY 4. (The new photos make it clear that we're not looking at 14 or 24, which could have been Justinian.)
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Yeah, that kinda makes sense, but I still have some doubts. I've checked in Sear catalogue Maurice Tiberius coins and I didn't find any with the obverse legend which ends with "ANVS PP A". But I've also looked into rulers from Justinian I to Maurice Tiberius. The only similiar coin is Nicomedian follis minted during reign of Tiberius II Constantine (SB 440), but is it possible that the the letter "V" from the obverse is the upside-down letter "T"? Then it would be "(DM TIb CONST)ANTS PP A(ul)".
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I don't have Sear so cannot check if such an issue is listed! Wildwinds doesn't have SB 440, and in fact the only listed types that match are from Justinian I (cannot be year 4), Maurice Tiberius, and an early single-bust type from Heraclius which is said to only be attested with years 1-3.
FWIW the legend at 9-10 hours looks compatible with TIb CO to me. For the section at 1-2 hours I wouldn't rule out AN[TIN]VS (or, equivalently, A[NTI]NVS) with the part in brackets skipped by the engraver.
AFAIK there is much still to be catalogued about these garbled Byzantine legends, so I wouldn't necessarily rely on any particular listing. But I could easily be wrong here.
I like the idea that it's Tiberius Constantine; if I didn't get confused by Wildwinds that would've been my guess. (Well that or Justin II but it doesn't look like he minted in Nicomedia.)
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Possibly of Tiberius II Constantine, but an old die from a previous emperor was used for the obverse, reworked in this sector, after which the final letters VG have disappeared.  |
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