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Valued Member
Brazil
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Dear coleagues, Can you help me? Do you believe this piece could be fake? I was suspicious because there are some lines connecting the letters to the edge on the obverse. Thank you very much! Caracala Rome 215. ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM P M TR P XX COS IIII P P RIC 285a; C. 373. Dimensions: 2,88 gm; 16 mm  |
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Valued Member
 Brazil
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Moderator
 United States
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@prs, I'm suspicious too, but because of the softness to the details. I'm interested to see what others think.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Certainly looks like a cast fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I agree. Lines connecting letters can be a good thing - flow lines show a coin was struck - but on this coin everything is very soft and the surface is like it has been cast.
I don't know about this type but cheap Caracalla coins are not hard to find, so it's an odd coin to copy.
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Moderator
United States
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@prs, any chance of you adding a couple pictures of the edge? It would be nice to check for a parting line. Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Valued Member
Brazil
146 Posts |
Dear Colleagues, Thank you for your comments. Below border images. Maybe bring some information. Thanks!   |
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Moderator
United States
34396 Posts |
Edge shots are wicked hard to do because of the curvature meaning only a small portion is in focus. Thx for posting these.
I'm not seeing an obvious parting line though. Perhaps the edge was ground down and then distressed to simulate wear?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
725 Posts |
It looks like two halves to me? It's not easy to see if it is or isn't from photos. There's a line running roughly down the edge, which if so, seems to have been filed to try to hide it. On the left of the bottom photo, it looks like there's a gap. I don't think you'd get a hollow like that on the edge of a hammered coin.
Edited by JohnConduitt
10/30/2022 2:28 pm
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Valued Member
Brazil
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Colleagues, I added other images of the border. Thank you very much for the thoughtful comments.    |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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'Pasty' surfaces, and mushy details, especially the reverse.
Could be silver plated, so XRF test may be of doubtful value.
I don't know it's a fake, but I share the OP's suspicions.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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What is going on here?  |
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Valued Member
Brazil
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Dear colleagues, I got better pictures.. What do you think? Thanks!      |
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Pillar of the Community
 Spain
2752 Posts |
Looks cast to me....But then we're just working from photos.
The op has the coin in hand and has doubts so I just wouldn't have this in my collection....It isn't a rare coin and decent examples can be had for well under $80...
Interested how much the op paid and from where?..Can you get your money back?...I would...
Did you buy from a reputable dealer and if so could you post the photos that drew you to this coin?
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Valued Member
Bulgaria
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According to wildwinds, it is ,,Caracalla, AE Limes denarius. Military mint.", it must be silver plated, that's why it looks like that. Just like this one  Edited by iulius
10/30/2022 5:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Not to be too forward, but this looks like an obvious cast fake to me, no need to see the edge of the coin really.
It does seem to have age to it but a copy it still remains.
Only my opinion but as a collector of roman coins, I would throw that in the trash.
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