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What Did ANACS Do To Deserve Its Bad Rap?

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 Posted 11/02/2022  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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perception of ANACS may be enhanced if they would bring their ugly yellow slabs into the 21st century


Couldn't agree more with that. Not a fan at all of their slabs.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I look at it like buying a truck. You buy a truck because you need to haul stuff.
Any truck with a bed, from the cheapest to the most expensive, will haul your stuff as long as it fits.
As you start adding options, the price goes up, but the basic functionality is the same -- it's a truck.

For more money, you start getting more power, more payload capacity, and things that can make your truck better at hauling your stuff or make it more convenient to do so, and the prestige of higher trim levels or premium brands. But it's still a truck.

If you just need to haul some stuff, there's no need to spend $80k on a truck when you can get the same hauling done for $25k. How much "extra" stuff you need and can justify is based on your preferences and your budget.
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 Posted 11/19/2022  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just saw this post and I consider anacs to be just as good as ngc and PCGS but what do I know? I'm sure ngc and PCGS get more prestige from the pop reports and the registry collections they have on the websites. Like the old saying goes buy the coins not the holders.
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Some statements Paralyse made...


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To the best of my knowledge, ANACS does not operate or maintain an online database of their coins or a set registry system. Unlike PCGS and NGC, you cannot enter an ANACS slab label number into their website to see images, population, pricing data, and such. Registry Sets have become a big deal for a lot of more advanced collectors over the last few years.


No registry nor pricing data, images are spotty, but there certainly is an online database and population report:

https://portal.anacs.com/Verify/Cer...ication.aspx

How good are the PCGS/NCG price guides anyway? Often comment that they are overly proud of their plastic.

The database goes all the way back to the earliest XX#### slabs. The data for the photocert INTAKE is in ledgers held by the ANA Museum, but not online.

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One needs to be careful of blanket statements:


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The ANACS small white soap holder has some excellent coins and most are correctly graded.


The SWH with XX#### cert#s were certified by ANA and then continued for several years when Amos Press bought ANACS. Amos switched to the all numeric certs and graded over 3 million coins.

At the end of the SWH, they sold ANACS to Anderson Press which started the Blue holders.

The transition from strict ANA Grading Standards (technical) to more market grading started under Amos and accelerated under Anderson.

Not all SWH are 'equal'.

But to be fair, every TPG has moved away from technical grading to market grading - why do you think there is so much crack-out and resubmit, even up to today?

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The grading has changed for all these grading services. In the early days of Anacs I sent a 1886O morgan. It came back a MS60. Kept it for many years then sent it to PCGS, came back MS62 .. I have a 1889CC morgan, I sent to NGC, came back details, then sent it to PCGS, came back F15, no details.I have sent over 50 coins to Anacs in the past few years and I think they are tough, maybe even tougher than the other two. One of the nicest morgans I have is in a SEGS holder.
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