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Was wondering if this spanish 1/2 real coin die from 1784 has any value. It is worn and made from iron. Looks like it is Carolus.III with a head in profile facing the name. It is stamped 1784 on the bottom.  |
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Well I would say this is pretty rare and almost certainly real. As to it's value, I would say at least a few hundred dollars but I can't find any die hubs of spanish reales. Maybe someone with more expertise can chime in.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Eight, that's really cool - thanks for posting! Can you post more pictures of this die? I'd like to see what the sides and bottom look like.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Please read the buy/sell/trade rules. John1  |
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John, mea culpa if I have run afoul of forum rules.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Hard to say if it is a genuine die as these were never released from the mints without significant defacing to prevent counterfeiting. The few photos of dies that I've seen have all been round. There were no hubs at this time -- all dies were unique having each element struck from individual punches.
The market for such items is really small so it's really hard to place a value on it. You should show it to experts to determine if it might be genuine. However, a contemporary counterfeit die would still have value to certain collectors.
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Heres a few shots it just a square of iron the only mark is the the coin the other surfaces a blank   |
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the back has no marks is  |
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Heres the back  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Eight, it's definitely a very interesting item - thank you for the pics! I'm in no way an expert on these, but it seems authentic to me.
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Interesting find indeed, Eight! Obverse die (mold) of a contemporary counterfeit 8 Reales... Any general provenance/background would be numismatically interesting: A) Is this a local detector find or otherwise surface in your area (flea market, estate sale, inherited)? B) Is the location shown in your profile accurate? (friend of mine's wife grew up in - I think - Bowie) *** EDIT: @Eight, just to help double-confirm what the denomination was, could you measure the exact diameter in millimeters of the coin design (to the very edge of the border of lines, or denticles/dentils as they're called)... and also the length of the entire square mold from edge to edge? It's definitely too big for a 2 Reales, and close enough to an 8R... but yet it seems a few millimeters small. VERY FEW contemporary 4R exist however... it MUST be an 8R. I'm guessing it's some just optical illusion/the piece would expand a bit when made. Edited by realeswatcher
11/03/2022 08:16 am
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