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George IV 1/2 Farthing 1830

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Just received this - what do you think the grade is?

George-IV-1/2-Farthing-1830

George-IV-1/2-Farthing-1830

George-IV-1/2-Farthing-1830

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 Posted 02/26/2009  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, and yes, I know there is another guy on the reverse side haha... it's a ghost
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 Posted 02/26/2009  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Was this coin polished? I find polished coins tough to grade because of the way it alters the coin. I guess I'd call it VF.
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 Posted 02/26/2009  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I would too, I was thinking a VF+ because of the lustre though.
I don't know if it was polished, but it does look 'brassy' and Sap is saying it's polished.
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This coin looks like it has been electroplated, you can see it clearly on the reverse. The detail looks to be AU-58.
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I've heard about electroplating in the context of making forgeries, is this one?
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I don't think so, the coin is real. Whatever was done to did made it look very odd.
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I don't know much yet but does lacquering make any sense?
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Didn't think of that, but it could also make the coin look like this.
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If so, am I to understand it was intended to preserve the die clash?
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I would think so.
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Ah, plated or painted. I didn't think of that.

I have a new scenario for you: that sometime shortly after this coin was released for circulation, it was plated or gilded by some means, to appear golden, and thus perhaps pass it off as a half-sovereign - the lack of denomination and rapid-fire changing of monarchs and coin designs in the early 1800's might have made it easier to pull off such a scam.

If so, then it's a pity - the coin looks very high grade beneath the plating, or lacquer, or whatever it is. EF plus. Still, if my hunch about gilding is correct, then it's this very discolouration that's preserved it - it's ended up in someone's "bits and bobs box" where it stayed, out of circulation and unworn, for a very long time.
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It could explain the pits on the surface and bumps around the edge..
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