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1982-Penny DDR Double Checked My Best Opinions On Verification

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i used variety vista and wexler for research 001 fs1801 and wexler wddr-002,the die gouges on obverse and reverse match I hope I am starting this right taking advice from a previous post might have my first

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Sorry hate to tell you, you don't have it. It's a little Machine Doubling. On FS 1801 all the reverse outside devises have a very wide doubling.
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I agree
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Same, keep at it!
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Hub doubling would show the devices enlarged. This is because of the spread between the hub process during the die creation. All you are seeing on your coin is machine issues, not a doubled die. When the machine shows looseness, the the devices will be altered by the machine causing a reduction of the devices, not spread that we see on doubled dies.
Here is what a doubled die will show on them:
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So you see the spreading of the devices in center of the devices. That is where they spread will be seen and the devices will be either wider or taller. Machine Doubling reduces the devices:
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On the DDR, the obverse is normal. Not doubled on both sides of the coin. (Which happens a lot on machine doubled coins. They come from machine issues that affect both sides of the coin. On a doubled die, the die is the cause of the hub doubling. While Machine Doubling can happen on doubled dies, Machine Doubling never creates hub doubling. It just alters the devices after the strike on either doubled dies or normal dies.
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Note on the digits, you can see the hub doubling that makes them larger than normal. But the Yellow arrows are showing the areas affected with Machine Doubling. Note the rounded/doubled devcies? On the arrows note the digits and mintmark are on these areas showing Machine Doubling. Remember Contour reduction is seen on Machine Doubling, spread is seen on doubled dies:
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Machine Doubling is common and not doubled dies. Doubled dies are die varieties, not machine issues during the strike.

CoopHome: What does die spread and Machine Doubling look like compared together? Machine Doubling is caused by the machine different from strike to strike. doubled dies show the same spread on each strike. reducing devices on Machine Doubling. enlarging devices on hub doubling on a doubled die.

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