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1834 N-1 Coronet Head Large Cent

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here is a nicer large cent for grading. ill chime in with my thoughts in a day or two.

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maybe not ms64 but its a very nice coin
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I'll say MS-63BN, really lovely coin.
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to me it looks like small eight, small stars, medium letters

shes a pretty one. very small mark on cheek and jaw. the reverse is killer

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This looks better than the Holmes/Bland coin which was (in my opinion) undergraded at EF40
The repunching in AMERICA's C is clearly visible, I don't have my copy of Noyes at work of course but this is a mid to later die state

My grade AU55








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I'll say a TPG AU58/MS62 BN EAC AU50/53 (I say with little confidence).
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Nice looking AU-58.
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I'd say AU-58. The reverse fields look a little flat to me.
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I would say small 8, large stars, large letters.
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I would say small 8, large stars, large letters.


closer look at the variety the last A in AMERICA is too far from vine to be a large letter. but you are correct about the large star

I'm changing my assessment to small 8, large stars, medium letters.
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i forgot to chime in on this one. here goes:

this is 1834 N-1. Rarity-1. its the small 8 variety.

this one is pretty easy to come up with an eac grade for. its been in the Blaisdell, Helfenstein, Merkin and Naftzger collections. its been collectively graded an MS-60+ by the eac crowd. earliest grade noted was from 1964. that grade puts it tied for 7th finest with a whole bunch of other MS 60 coins (more than 10).

i think those guys are too kind to this coin. its been cleaned and has a bit of a chemical irridesence reminescent of oil on water. I think they bumped this coin a grade or two because its quite attractive and it has a rather interesting die state. note the strange crumbling going on by star 4. it also has a nice and pronounced double profile. this doubling is similar to Machine Doubling on modern coins, and is a strike issue rather than a die variant. I eac grade this a 60 net 55. I ding it for being cleaned and being nicked on the cheek. my grade takes this coin from CC7 to solidly outside the top 25. I think when the spread is that tight trying to actually rank the coins becomes difficult without comparing them in hand.

i think its reasonably likely that this coin spent some of its life in a pop in whitman style album. I say that because the obverse is a little nicked up and darker in color than the reverse which is nearly flawless. I think the obverse toned while the reverse was protected by said album.

i find this coin difficult to predict the slab grade for. to my eye its been cleaned and recolored, therefore it should not strait grade. it has those nicks on the cheek. I think they would strait grade it. I think it would cac if they graded it below 64. its really quite attractive. I think strait grade ms 64 would be correct for the financial value.
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