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For Sale: Proof 1930 Penny

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/new...7446283.html -

"In for a penny? Then you're in for $2 million
February 22, 2009 - 6:17PM

An Australian proof 1930 penny, acknowledged as the most valuable copper coin of the modern era in the world, is being offered for sale with a price tag of $2 million.

The coin is one of just six proofs struck at the Melbourne Mint, and one of three which remain in private hands.

It is considered the best of the proofs and was originally handpicked by the mint's deputy master, A M Le Souef, for his private collection.

A proof is a special early sample of a coin issue, historically made for checking the dies and for archival purposes.

The coin, owned by a businessman, has come onto the market this week after nine years.

Coinworks director Belinda Downie, a Melbourne-based rare coin dealer, said interest in it from across the globe was high.

She said the outstanding provenance made the coin special, with anything connected to Le Souef's collection pounced on by dealers.

"Over the years, it's been referred to as the king of rarities," she told AAP on Sunday.

"It is simply a phenomenal coin in an exceptional state of preservation."

Ms Downie said the hefty price tag reflected what was happening in the industry, despite the global economic downturn.

She said the only proof 1923 halfpenny available to collectors had sold earlier this month for a record $500,000, after last being sold a decade ago for $89,100.

"Top coins have always done well, what recessions do is they make people look for alternatives," she said.

"We've had record sales and we're actually operating at record levels.

"Our industry across the board is doing extremely well, we are getting increased inquiries and extremely solid sales."

Adding to the mystique of the coin, 1,500 1930 pennies accidentally made it into circulation, despite no record of them at the mint.

Even those pennies, not as fine as the proofs, can sell for $20,000.

"They are not proof coins, they were specifically struck for circulation in a factory environment," Ms Downie said.

"The proof coins are created like masterpieces, they are regarded as works of art."

Ms Downie said the owner was selling because he had had his enjoyment of the rare coin.

"He wanted to acquire the most important coin in the industry and he's held onto it for nine years," she said.

"He knows he's selling the coin into a market that is growing, I think he decided it's time."

AAP" [end]

if you'd like to see pics, go to -
http://www.1930penny.com.au/photos.html

if I recall correctly, the most recent proof 1930 penny sold for AUD $675,000, about three years ago. I'm sure that there was a thread on it.

Peter in Oz


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02/27/2009 08:15 am
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Wow. That's perhaps the ultimate proof coin!
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 Posted 03/02/2009  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She's bought a domain for it too:

http://1930penny.com.au/

Sorry the whole thing smacks of used car sales or real estate sales to me, not coin collecting.
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<<"He wanted to acquire the most important coin in the industry and he's held onto it for nine years," she said.>>

If I did the math right ... if I forked over $1.78 I could hold on to the thing for a minute, right?
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 Posted 03/03/2009  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tell you what, lets chuck in a hundred and take it out to dinner.
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 Posted 03/03/2009  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, the whole thing is a bit overdone.
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$2,000,000.00 ouch!,its turning into a hobby of King's
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03/08/2009 4:46 pm
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took a while, but this coin finally sold:
"
Times may be tough but you wouldn't know it at the top end of the investment coin market. Earlier this year, Belinda Downie of Coinworks sold a 1930 penny for an amount she will only say was above the $1.5 million mark. Whatever it was, it was a record. The current market valuation is $1.65 million. ..."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/money/inve...xzz1P6YNmXqO

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 Posted 06/12/2011  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is the coin even graded? I could see some chinese counterfeiter making some of these
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the Chinese have been counterfeiting these for some time.
Before that, Aussie villains "recycled" 1936 pennies by overstriking the date. At least one example of these was recently the subject of its own thread here on CCF.
Australians aren't fans of slabs: who wants to pay big money for a coin you can't handle ?
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These pennies are very often faked. These pictures here should be used as a standard to compare a suspect coin with.

So far as handling is concerned, it would be easy to put it into an acrylic screw capsule, so you CAN handle it. That is what I have done with a small number of coins that I have, where they normally live in my safe.

My rationale is: 'If you have to put it into a safe, you might as well put it into a screw capsule'. The vast majority of my collection does NOT live in my safe. It is a working collection.

The capsules are as cheap as chips. You can buy them from dealers for less than a dollar. They usually have them as a result of breaking a proof set.

BTW, I would agree that most Australians are not fans of slabbing. I have seen a few threads: 'Should I break the slab or not?' Obviously, slabs have their storage problems.
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 Posted 06/13/2011  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2 million dollars is too extreme to believe for a 1930 penny proof
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Looks like a finger print on the obverse!
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