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Double Error Bicentennial Quarter?

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 Posted 11/14/2022  01:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LoneBear to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There seems to be 2 errors on my bicentennial quarter. One on the chin of the drummer, the other appears to be a letter resembling the "p" in e pluribus unum on drummers right bicep. Opinions and advice. And what would the value be?
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 Posted 11/14/2022  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Could use better photos,but looks like hits from being circulated. Not an error it is PMD.You posted in the wrong section,I PMed the mods to move your post.
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to the CCF.

I agree - likely damage from circulation but the photo is not in focus enough to say for sure.
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to the CCF

Damage is not an error.
An error can only occur during the striking of the coin.
Value 25 cents.
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Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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 Posted 11/14/2022  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sharper pics please.



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 Posted 11/14/2022  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin looks to match number 9 in the list of Dirty Dozen Damages:

1) discoloration - stains from coffee, or environmental damage from being buried, heated, etc.
2) scrapes over much of the coin - damage from sliding on pavement, a parking lot coin
3) coin bent or edges not round - it has been smashed with a hammer
4) coin blank on all or most of one side - someone sanded it down
5) mirrored lettering - a vise job, a coin squeezed against another in a vise
6) rough, pebbly surfaces - coin that received an acid bath
7) smooth rims, smaller diameter - has been trapped rolling inside a dryer, a " Dryer Coin"
8) clear mounds on coin - glue that has dried transparently
9) small indentations in the shape of the letter D - marks left by the impact of the reeded edge of another coin
10) large blisters - coin exposed to high heat, such as in a campfire
11) shapes, often letters or numbers, not indented or raised - Pareidolia (like animal shapes in a cloud)
12) a circular scrape just inside the rim - " Ring of Death" caused by a coin rolling machine

Don't despair! Error coins remain ready to find from circulation, but they are outnumbered by unusual looking coins that merely have been damaged. If you can imagine a way to change an undamaged coin into one like you see, that's probably exactly what happened to it. Changes to a coin after it leaves the mint's striking chamber are considered post mint damage, or PMD, and have no premium value.

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to the CCF and Reed Marks from circulation.
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I agree, Reed Marks from another coin. No error, just post mint damage.
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 Posted 11/18/2022  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LoneBear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Error on the chin is not PMD, it's a Cud error.
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The posted photo is a bit difficult to assess. With that, I believe I'm seeing post-strike damage.

Note: Cuds--for numismatic purposes--are features associated with the rim of the coin.
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Error on the chin is not PMD, it's a Cud error.

LoneBear
A Cud is caused by the edge of the die breaking away, it cannot
be in the centre of the coin. What you have is just damage.
Example of a Cud
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Quote:
Note: Cuds--for numismatic purposes--are features associated with the rim of the coin.

Agreed.
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