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There are several mediaeval coins that had a pretty long run - the Genoese denaro (1139-1358) is another that comes to mind. The problem with these coins is, the design changed in the sense of the fonts and lettering used, because these coins span the transition between "mediaeval" and "modern". There's enough design tweaks and modifications for a neutral observer to say "yep, that's a different coin type now". Each variety within the series, each font style and minor design change - lasted less than 200 years. The Florence fiorino, for example, had a small shield denoting the ruler of the day; this is a not insignificant part of the design.; each new shield is effectively a new design, a new coin type.
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There are several mediaeval coins that had a pretty long run - the Genoese denaro (1139-1358) is another that comes to mind. Yes, many Italian states had "frozen" types, often struck with the name of the Holy Roman Emperor who first granted the right to coin, that lasted over 100 years. (Bologna's bolognino grosso 1191-1337 is another example). To me, it's significant in this discussion that the ducat, the fiorino and the MT Thaler were consistent on purpose since they were trade coins. It was exactly the point that they would look the same, weigh the same regardless of changes in the ruler of the place where they were made (though the ducats' inscriptions varied by the state where they were struck). I think the changes in the mintmasters' marks on undated medieval coins aren't much different than changes in dates on modern coins. It's still the same type. |
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Kinda lurking on this thread, and yes, I actually do have a gold Dutch ducat dated 1928:   |
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Australia
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I would agree on the Chinese cast coins as mentioned by Sap
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U.S.struck and by composition would be the Jefferson nickel. 66 years to 2003 when it changed design for 2004. ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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United States
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Quote:U.S.struck and by composition would be the Jefferson nickel. 66 years to 2003 when it changed design for 2004. Not so fast my friend!  The composition change for WWII interrupted the cupro-nickel run, so it is only 57 years (from 1946). The clad Roosevelt dime tied that last year and in 2023 reached a 58 year run.  |
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Quote:The clad Roosevelt dime tied that last year and in 2023 reached a 58 year run. Actually 59 isn't it? 1965 to 2023. I forgot, were they made in 1975? Of course, as I already mentioned, the Liberty Head $2.50 had a 68-year run from 1840 until 1907 with (AFAIK) no changes. IIRC there's a planned commemorative series for 2026 that would interrupt all the ongoing runs, which means that these 68 years might remain the record for the foreseeable future. |
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Actually 59 isn't it? 1965 to 2023. I forgot, were they made in 1975? I have not seen a 2023 dime yet, so I wanted to make no assumptions.  Truth is I forgot to count inclusive...  Quote:
Of course, as I already mentioned, the Liberty Head $2.50 had a 68-year run from 1840 until 1907 with (AFAIK) no changes. True, but if we wanted to be picky, the reverse was modified in 1859 with significantly smaller lettering.  Quote:
IIRC there's a planned commemorative series for 2026 that would interrupt all the ongoing runs, which means that these 68 years might remain the record for the foreseeable future. Correct. I doubt coin minting will continue long enough beyond 2027 (when new permanent designs could come back). |
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I think we should diffferenciate between (1) temporary changes of design or metal, such as the quarter reverse change in 1976 or the War Nickels issued from 1942-5, which don't really affect the continuity of a series, and (2) where a previously complete series is revived after a long gap, such as the 2021 Morgan and Peace dollars. In my opinion the latter don't count as part of the same series. |
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Quote:I think we should diffferenciate between (1) temporary changes of design or metal, such as the quarter reverse change in 1976 or the War Nickels issued from 1942-5, which don't really affect the continuity of a series We should give some consideration to the 114 year old Lincoln Cent: a US coin with a constant obverse, despite having seven different obverses and four different compositions. |
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