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This is kind of a silly question, but the modern coin flips I've handled since I started collecting are integrated—I mean the Mylar window is layered inside the cardboard, so they're basically ready to go—just put the coin against the window, fold and staple the flip and you're good.

Among my grandpa's coins, there are some that are in flips that are very different. The plastic windows are much thinner, and it looks like the plastic was separate from the cardboard, and was cut to size by the coin store or buyer and inserted on either side of the coin as it was inserted in the cardboard flip, then everything was stapled together. There are times when the plastic extends out beyond the edge of the cardboard, as if it was cut sloppily.

I'm just curious—was there a time when coin flips came like that, with precut 2X2 cardboard squares with the coin holes pre-punched, and the plastic coming in separate thin sheets that were cut down to size as needed? Anybody have a general idea when the "all in one" flips became the norm? Knowing this could help me narrow down when some of these coins were purchased—not something I absolutely need to know but it adds to the history.

An alternative theory for the flips I'm finding is that maybe they were using old flips where the plastic had been cut out to extract the first coin, and then they were cutting something like Saran Wrap to fit the flip when they added a new coin. I'm less inclined to believe this because it looks like the coins, flips and all, were bought in stores—many have the kind of writing you'd expect—date and coin type (which fits the coin currently in the flip), condition, and sometimes also a price. I'd assume stores would have new flips for their coins, rather than recycling old ones.

Just curious—thought maybe longtime collectors would have info.
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The short answer to any problem that is OP may have,
Is for all coins that may require it, is to put them in new flips.

As far as the age of older flips is concerned, I am not of much help unfortunately, except to say that I have been using the very familiar Mylar / cardboard flips for more than 50years.

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One small problem with Mylar / cardboard flips is the fact the the Mylar film is rather thin.

With thick coins or ancient coins with high relief,
the thin film does not provide much protection to the rims, or to high relief details.
To get around this problem, to provide sufficient protection
I use thin acrylic sheet as an insert inside the flip.

The flips can still be sealed with staples, but much more care and patience is needed when using the stapler, because the staples have to penetrate the acrylic sheet, as well as the cardboard.

Smaller and thinner coins, and those of lower value, in most cases, do not need this additional protection.

Flips can still go into 2x2 album pockets as usual.
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I don't think they ever came in a "some assembly required" version, where the films and cardboard were separate. If they seem separate in some of your old flips, then it's probably just the glue that holds the film onto the cardboard has given way.

It's possible that people "made their own" in certain circumstances, such as if you've busted open a 2x2 and you wanted to try to "fix" it rather than simply get a new 2x2.But this would all be "custom-made" jobs done by the owner, rather than some kind of kit sold by a dealer.
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Thanks! It's weird because I'm pretty sure these are dealer flips. There are quite a few in this album that have plastic peeking out the edges like this.

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If it's my uncle's collection (some of the flips have his name on them) he'd have been collecting from the mid 1940's through 1963. There are some additions (64 Kennedys and a 1971 Ike), which I'm guessing might have been my stepdad adding coins he found (there's also an inventory in his handwriting in the back of the notebook).

Anybody have a collection that old with original flips?
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It certainly looks to be a much older flip.
I suspect that the clear window may be of Cellophane in this case.
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