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1974 Washington Quarter Mint Error - Collar Clash

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 Posted 11/28/2022  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From variety vista, RDV-009 was used for 1974 and this looks like a match and there are no 1975 quarter designs since they were making bicentennial 1976's using RDV-010.

1974-Washington-Quarter-Mint-Error---Collar-Clash



The reverse has a nice look to it whatever it is.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 11/28/2022  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ CoinHI Is proved that was use RDV-007. 1975 was a mystery. VV give some design variety but not all certify. They do what was at the of printing. Is no blame because in coins it is what it is.

The RDV-009 has no sheriff in N, this it is the first indicator. Then it is the head feathers. Complete different.

To be clear: The only year clear was 1975 mystery. 1973-74 we know, then 76 a new and then 79-82 different. What was miss? 1975. In studies we thinks that 73 hub was use. But the strikes show sheriff in N (unum) So must be other design and old hub use, which is normal for 1975. In that period the Mint prepare the dies for the next year some where in November It is possible that one die for 1975 was replace a old die of 1974. Human error who give today an thinking long time believed be a variety.

PS : Are more RDV's and variants then we think. Will be publish soon. Damage Hubs is not we as anymore.
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11/28/2022 03:52 am
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 Posted 11/28/2022  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting discussion. I await Mike Diamond views on the updates photos.
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@ nickel:
I wait also because we take today VV like a bible. But in fact it is not: is just photos with no explanation.
All others sites explain, and show. And this I like. Maybe I could be wrong, but I try to point my view. The VV never do, they are just copy-past. This could be a good reference if you can understand.

NICKEL, I hope Mike will put his point. To-day those which look for design varieties are counted by fingers.

Me I do not trust VV except the penny.
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 Posted 11/28/2022  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the close-up. These rim features still do not look like collar clash. It is the notches that should be recessed while the gaps between them should be raised. Your coin shows the opposite condition. The irregularities on your coin's design rim are also indistinct, while collar clash is usually much sharper in appearance. Finally, in some areas the irregularities extend the entire width of the design rim, while collar clash is restricted to the outer portion of the design rim. I suspect this is some kind of metal flow phenomenon, but it's unique to my experience. I'd be glad to study it up close and possibly write it up for Coin World.
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Very interesting on all accounts! I'll drop it in the mail to Mike today and get things rolling.

Thanks everyone for all the comments and informative posts! Seems an interesting coin in a couple of ways and hopefully can get it all figured out over time.
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Sounds great. Maybe I'll make some progress figuring it out once I have it in hand.
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Wasn't the easiest to get decent photos of it so yeah, likely you will be able to nail it down better in hand. It has been packaged and will be at the post office in about an hour so you should have it soon.
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Great news, looking forward to learning more about this from Mike.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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I now have the quarter. The elevations on the reverse design rim line up with the grooves on the coin's edge, which is especially well-struck. Therefore, the elevations on the design rim represent one of two things: (1) metal pushed up during the strike as the expanding coin forced its way into the ridges on the collar's working face or (2) metal dragged downward as the coin was ejected. Since the elevations are blunt rather than burr-like, the first scenario seems much more likely.
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Thanks Mike! Seems like such an obvious thing when you look at the quarter that I suspect it is at least something uncommon or maybe just uncommonly strong, even if not what I originally thought it was. Really appreciate you time looking it over and explaining what you are seeing. Always learning something new.
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The Collectors' Clearinghouse column devoted to this 1974 quarter can now be found in the latest online edition of Coin Word (January 2, 2023).
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Very cool, I just read it. Will there be a reference to this on error-ref Mike?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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There will be an entry on error-ref, eventually.
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