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Saw this rather nice example of collar clash in a roll I was going through. Not sure if this is uncommon or not but it really stood out. Pretty minor on the obverse but the reverse is quite extensive. 1974 Washington quarter mint error - collar clash   |
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Very nice!  |
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@TROP: Collar Clash or not I do look for, BUT seem you has the 1975 Reverse Design. Your coin do not fir the 1973 and 1974 design which was an IIIc hub use. You has N in EPU sheriff which is not present on 1974. Basic for 1974 they use the RDV-007 hub with minor change in the high of the design. I have some questions because by photos I can not see very well.
What I do not see:
1. The Q if has Hub doubling (is very , very light upper inner more orientate to the U )
2. U is almost barely touch by the leaf
3. The Leaves are spooned.
4. Under the arrows tips the upper two leaf are Hub Doubling very light
5. Left wing (as we see) upper left side has an Hub Doubling like an Die crack small and the right longer.
If all my 5 points are confirm, then you has transitional design. I hope all the roll is like this. In general we presume that those mixed hub design are somewhere to 0.11%.
For me will be the first coin to see like this on over 2000.
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Not something I would have spotted for sure.
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First time I've seen a collar clash that went almost all the way around the rim..
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Looks like I will have to pull this one back out for some Silvio macros. I still haven't learned the different quarter hubs as I rarely work with quarters, but I have been picking up some nice rolls at face value from a dealer lately so starting to see what they have to offer. Sadly most of what he ditches at face are just State Quarters and there seems to be little to find on any of those. This quarter was just one of a bunch of random dates in nice shape, not a BU roll for the year. I think he knocks out modern quarters from albums and dumps them in the face bag and so quite a lot of older uncirculated quarters show up in there and I get them on the cheap. |
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Collar clashes happen more on the center edges of the rim.    Note how it affects the outside edge of the die? But if the step down was also affected, then it would be weaker on that area of a collar clash:  It would be incuse on the rim area.  These are die events, but ones that often can retire a die. (Or be ignored by the mint) Depending on the amount of contact on the die alteration. |
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Nice collar clash and a really nice-looking coin.
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I reopen this topic because I was able to work the TB photo. Confirm me him has an unconfirmed before the 1974 Quarter with the 1975 Design. 1. The Q if has Hub doubling (is very , very light upper inner more orientate to the U )  4. Under the arrows tips the upper two leaf are Hub Doubling very light  5. Left wing (as we see) upper left side has an Hub Doubling like an Die crack small and the right longer. And 3. The Leaves are spooned.   This it is a big discovery. In 1973 they use one hub RDV-007 adding a line at the down bottom of the feathers upper the arrows (see in the photos). the 1975 was a mystery for many years because many has 73-74 dies use but to day I can confirm 1975 is Different hybrid of RDV-007. I post the reflections of because could be good for educations. TB coin will be the best for the book (guide) of the design varieties of Quarters and the Transitions. |
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Sounds like you might want to see this one in person? Let me know, as I just am not well-versed with these reverse dies like you are.
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Thank you TB, I will PM you. Will be great your contribution. I had friend from NY and Cal for thanksgiving and according by my duty I had to clean, then after I will contact you. Your box it is in one of 40 boxes with your name on I will look for before the Holydays.
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This does not look like collar clash to me. Collar clash is very rare on the face struck by the anvil die, so it's highly unlikely we'd also have a case that encompasses almost 360 degrees. Furthermore, collar clash generally appears as a set of serrations located between the design rim and metal that squeezes up past it. All I see here is unusually strong reeding that has created a serrated appearance at the rim/edge junction. Either that, or it's case of a "crenellated rim". These are prongs that represent extensions of the reeds and develop during ejection. But I've only seen one case of that. Better close-ups would be helpful.
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Excellent macros. Thanks TB. You confirm me the hypothesis for your coin. All the points are there. At the right side of the wing is Hub doubling, seem MD but id HD. The line under the feathers was design like this and introduced first time in 1973. I have no idea what reason was for?!!.
Thanks TB, I has today a great time. Maybe Mike can discern also on (I hope). Your post it is the first mention on this variety, and you find and the medal must be your.
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11/28/2022 12:43 am
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