1998 1c Double Indents With Partial Collar?

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CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2741 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 03:34 am I'm not sure on this one as it looks broadstruck too. The edge photo shows the indent area to the left while the right side is showing a partial collar effect. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 04:11 am Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 07:16 am @coin, what is the diameter of the non-double struck region? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
bugil46 Pillar of the Community United States 579 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 09:14 am Waiting on the pros. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 10:34 am That's quite interesting. The diameter for the outer part seems fine for a cent indent, but the bit toward the center seems to have too small a diameter. Almost looks like the coin was indented by a double struck coin that was about 90% off. Edited by tropicalbats 12/09/2022 1:14 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2741 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 1:42 pm Yeah TB, that upper part of the indents has an oddly smaller diameter. I guess it could have wiped out design elements too. The reverse almost appears double struck but mostly seems stretched like in broadstruck errors, note the lettering in AMERICA (which I find has nice appeal). The rim seems to have a tilted collar element to it which I don't understand being associated with a broadstrike. Spence- sorry, I don't have a calipers. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5785 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 3:14 pm Hmmm... Looks like there are secondary design elements above IGWT as well. How about this scenario: -the planchet is struck normally but is not fully ejected and ends up on the collar. -the next planchet can't seat properly and ends up on the bottom of this coin which is resting on the collar -the next strike places the indent, the secondary design elements, and the partial collar on this coin. (It seems like the secondary design elements would be most evident where the pressure was the lowest during the second strike.) Just a thought. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Edited by Petespockets55 12/09/2022 3:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 4:28 pm I was asked to provide my opinion. At the very least, it's a partial collar error with an indent. It could also be a close double strike with a stationary indent on both strikes. The first strike would most likely have had a partial collar error while the second strike may have been completely out-of-collar. However, there isn't sufficient evidence to apply the more complex diagnosis. I always opt for the simplest, most conservative scenario. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97320 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 5:30 pm This is a strange looking one, What could have caused that huge circular indent without bulging out the reverse? Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHI Pillar of the Community United States 2741 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 5:35 pm Thanks Mike, how about the indent being a smaller diameter (from what I see anyways) than a planchet, Is that common? "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254 Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2738 Posts	Posted 12/09/2022 10:57 pm It's very common for the radius of an indent or partial brockage to be much smaller than that of the coin. The pressure of the strike stretches out the struck tab. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
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