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Mint Mark Or Mintmark?

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Me too - if I didn't, none of you would be able to figure out what I'm trying to say...
I can relate.
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I have followed the discussion here with interest, and I hope you permit a foreigner who does not have English as first language to make some reflections. One of the things that are confusing with the English language is whether to write compound words like mint mark like that or like mintmark. Another good example is whether one should write rail road, rail-road or railroad. All three spellings are used, but the last one dominates (at least according to Google). Especially confusing is it when different spellings give more or less different meanings, like sometime and some time. Anyway, sometime during my school time's English classes we were told that this reflects a development of the language, where to begin with two separate words are combined to form a term for a new concept (like rail road). As time progresses, and the concept becomes more commonplace, the two words become one compound word, railroad, sometimes with hyphenation, rail-road, as an intermediate step.

So I cannot tell which is more correct, mint mark or mintmark. I probably use both, perhaps depending on which one I saw last (assuming that whoever wrote that is a native English speaker and knows better than me ).

It is much simpler in Swedish, where compound words are mandatorily written as a single word. So mynt märke is wrong, myntmärke is the only correct form (I am sure you can translate that into English, Swedish is not that different ). That of course can result in rather long words, that may look peculiar to speakers of other languages - for instance, pappersmasseindustriarbetarförbundsmedlemmarna* is a perfectly legal Swedish word (although unusually long, to be honest ).

* Translation: the members of the pulp and paper industry workers' union.
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In Germanic languages (such as Swedish), compounding of words to create big long words is normal. In Latin languages (like French), it is not. English is at its core still a Germanic language, but it's been "contaminated" by Latin much more than other Germanic languages. Hence the ambiguity, which is very typical of English.

You have the complication of the global nature of English, giving rise to lots of local variants, the most distinctive of which is American English, with its peculiar spellings and distinct preferences for using one word over another. For example, "Railroad" is a word very rarely used or heard outside of North America; everywhere else in the English-speaking world, "railway" is used instead. (and yes, it's always "railway" and never "rail way").

The compound word "ought" to be used when the separate or hyphenated forms would cause ambiguity or confusion. "Railroad" is a good example; using "rail road" or even worse, "rail-road", conjures in my mind a normal road (for cars) that also has rails running down it, for trains. And yes, here in Australia it's not hard to find places where they've done this. Thus, a "rail-road bridge" would be a bridge designed for use by both cars and trains. But a "railroad bridge" is just for trains, no cars allowed.

Likewise, "mintmark" is less ambiguous than "mint mark", so is the preferred usage.
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Thank you so much, folks. Please select in the poll...it makes it the easiest way for me to win this argument about the "correct" way to write it out.
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I tend to write it as one word, but I wouldn't complain if I were to see it as two.

Edit: the poll is 13-14 in favor of one word. Prior to my vote, it was tied!
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Is it really something to lose sleep over ?
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For example, "Railroad" is a word very rarely used or heard outside of North America; everywhere else in the English-speaking world, "railway" is used instead.
Also in America... we park in the driveway and drive on the parkway.
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Easy way to solve this - How do you abbreviate Mintmark? Like 'M M'? or 'MM'? I think that everybody uses MM. If that is true, then 'Mintmark' is the proper way to spell it out..
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Easy way to solve this - How do you abbreviate Mintmark? Like 'M M'? or 'MM'? I think that everybody uses MM. If that is true, then 'Mintmark' is the proper way to spell it out..
But NBC is National Broadcasting Company, not NationalBroadcastingCompany.

Not gonna fight it though. I already admitted that mintmark is okay. Hey, look at that! No squiggles when I typed it this time.
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But NBC is National Broadcasting Company, not NationalBroadcastingCompany.

darn - thought I had the answer...
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