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OK This Is To See Who Has Ever Heard Of The Universala Ligo

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I have never done a pole, so this is a first. no cheating and looking it up. They had their own currency Called the Steloj. It was formed after WWII in association with the Dutch church. First coins were minted from 1960 - 1965

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What countries accepted this currency?

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My recollection, with no "cheating or looking it up":

It was never an actual currency that people used. It was issued by the proponents of Esperanto as a fictional one-world currency to go with their fictional one-world language.

Since "none of the above" wasn't an option in the poll, I couldn't vote.
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I'm dumb as a coal bucket, so I cheated. Very cool post/topic and reminds me of stuff going on in the world of currency now.
Since I disqualified myself I can't vote and won't crypt the poll.
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You say "in association with the Dutch church" These coins, properly called tokens, were not related to any church but to the Esperanto organization Universal League. These tokens were accepted by members of the organization not by "countries".
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Ok so asking not to cheat, was a stretch. it was a trick question, yes it is a Token not associated with any country. Here is the poop on this token. I just happen to get a 5 Stoloj in a bag of coins and researched it.
Dutch organization called the Universala Ligo (Universal League). The League's mission was to unite mankind through the use of a common language.
The League's hope was to achieve peace through international economics—that global conflicts caused by international economic pressures could be resolved by using this revolutionary currency.This noble task would fall upon the "stelo" (Esperanto for "star") and its value was determined as 1 stelo = 1 standard loaf of bread, which at the time cost 0.25 Dutch guilders.

The first coins were minted in 1960. Through 1965, successive issues produced 1, 5, 10 and 25 steloj denominations. They actually circulated—but not with the support of any government. Steloj functioned for over 30 years as token coinage used to purchase books and other items within the Netherlands' chapter of the Ligo. In 1974 the stelo was revalued at 0.50 Dutch guilders. With the hope of cushioning it from inflation, the stelo was later pegged to the consumer price index. But fierce internal disputes over how it should be valued brought about the demise of the currency. The Universala Ligo disbanded in 1993 and, in the late 1990s, the deaths of its greatest advocates ended any major Esperanto initiatives.

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Any time you ever see a word ending in "J", it's a surefire bet that you're looking at an Esperanto word. No real-world languages that I'm aware of have words ending in "J", but it's the standard plural suffix in Esperanto.

I think the killer blow to the Esperanto proponents was the realization that, for an artificial language aiming to supplant English as the world's lingua franca, Esperanto wasn't even the world's most popular synthetic language. More people knew how to speak fluent Elvish (from Lord of the Rings) and Klingon (from Star Trek) than Esperanto.

Maybe the Esperantists should have sponsored the production of an Esperanto-based sci-fi/fantasy TV series...
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